Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Getting too old for an LHSA event? No way, Dick! Did anyone in the party actually take any pictures? Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog YNWA On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: > Stefan Daniel was asked about the "R Solution" at the LHSA meeting and he > replied with what I felt was considerable regret that it was economically > unfeasible given the current competition in the DSLR market. But, ... > > He went on to talk about the development of a *full-frame* camera with an > EVF that would be primarily directed at M users but that would also take R > lenses with an adapter. They are also considering development of a line > of autofocus lenses for this camera. Let's hope they don't snatch defeat > from the jaws of victory on this one like they did with the X-1. > > Another tidbit: Leica, at least for its M lenses, remains committed to > the development of lenses that are fully corrected optically - no firmware > corrections, please. > > By far the most interesting thing at Photokina was the new Fuji X100 that > Fuji was showing in mockup only but with an operating viewfinder. The > optical finder had projected frame lines and minimal info (shutter speed, > f-stop and ISO) so it was nicely uncluttered. A flick of a switch converts > the finder to an EVF. It uses an APS-C sensor and I saw nothing to make > me think the frame lines were parallax corrected. Cool, nevertheless! > It's about the size of a GF-1. It looks like an interesting camera and I > look forward to seeing some images from it. > > The Wetzlar meeting was a lot of fun, but having signed up for *all* the > tours I ended the week walked out and considerably tired. Maybe I'm just > getting too old for this kind of stuff. :-) > > Regards, > > Dick > > > > On Oct 06, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Richard Man wrote: > >> Ah, so it's not even "may be we will look at it in 2 years, but NEVER" :-( >> >> (well not that I use the R systems, but seeing stuff from Doug and George, >> clearly there is something there there) >> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at gmx.de> >> wrote: >> >>> I quote: >>> >>> R-SYSTEM >>> A digital solution in the form of a R10 was not presentable. Such an >>> investment would have been to great for Leica. The development of the >>> S-System cost ?30m. A similar effort for a digital R was not fundable. >>> >>> >>> Not presentable (nicht darstellbar) should be "not feasible" - it's an >>> expression often used by engineers - so what was actually meant above was >>> >>> "we took a look at the idea and shelved it 'cos we couldn't afford it in >>> a >>> month of Sundays, and it wouldn't be profitable even if we could" >>> >>> Cheers >>> Douglas >>> >>> >>> On 06.10.2010 06:00, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>> >>>> Absolutely understandable disappointment for R lens owners of course. >>>> However the expectaiton for a 'solution' this Photokina came entirely >>>> from >>>> speculation and desire rather than specific promise. All largely >>>> unremarked >>>> here but there has been an awful lot of anguish and emotional >>>> outpouring, >>>> dummy spitting, rants and stompimg out of the room in the (dedicated) L >>>> Camera Forum. >>>> >>>> Stefan Daniel told us in mid 2009 that they were working on the >>>> 'suitable >>>> solution' but not to expect it before this Photokina etc. That of >>>> course >>>> has now slipped further but at least they have provided some slightly >>>> more >>>> specific information on the possible form that it may take (in general >>>> terms). I think that Leica Camera have learnt a lesson there and are >>>> less >>>> likely to provide any specific models and developments that are only >>>> planned >>>> or not. >>>> According to an attendee at the LHSA meeting in Wtezlar Leica management >>>> have now excluded the possible solution prior to photokina 2012. >>>> Personally I am still stunned tht the S2 development costs were some 30 >>>> million EURO and I note their comment that other medium format camera >>>> manufacturers occupied something like 50% less floor space at pk. Not a >>>> reassuring indicator for the genre, if unsurprising. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 October 2010 13:33, Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Looks like they are working overtime to 'repair their finances' for the >>>>> time >>>>> being. Can't blame them for that, it is a pragmatic business decision. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Geoff Hopkinson<hopsternew at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Andy Barton, a MOD on the L Camera Forum has posted a summary of >>>>>> >>>>> responses >>>>> >>>>>> from Leica Camera Executives to a number of questions on Leica >>>>>> products >>>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>> policy. >>>>>> You can read it here, even if not a meber of that forum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/144758-leica-luf-%40-pkina-english.html >>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >> previous >> replies in your msgs. ] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >