Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/21

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Subject: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 Belstaff Leica M8/M9 camera bag
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:14:40 -0400

Billingham bags look great but feel terrible it ruins it for me, Frank!
They feel like polyester only because they ARE polyester. a cotton polyester
blend The emphasis being on the polyester. I really think its 80% poly 20%
cotton. My fingertips have preppy sensors. To me that's just plan odd and a
truly misplaced choice on their part sure it makes the bag lighter and not
fade and do better in the wash but if you put a short stack of filters in
there it gets rid of any difference in the weight department and there is
nothing more annoying than a bag which always looks new. Never fades or
ages. To me that's not a bag that's formaldehyde with straps and a handle.

Fogg bags are all cotton. Feel great. Fade and shrink wonderfully.
Just like Domke bags are. cotton canvas. Thick. The semi stiffness acts in a
way like padding even though its not.

Billingham bags are ubiquitous with rich guy types they can be acquired at
the usual suspect outlets.
Fogg bags are centered in the UK and require some doing to figure out how to
grab onto over here in the US. They also cost twice as much.
And are also it looks to me designed twice better. And have better names.

I'm hard on Billingham bags. But this hardness comes from my reaction to
people who think they are the be all and end all in a luxury camera bag.
They've just NOT done their homework. And people should always do their
homework. THEN go out and play.

But I have a  Billingham 300 bag I got used for 99 bucks used and as it was
in Oregon no tax or license. Its comparable to the 555 they sell now which
goes for 555 bucks give or take.
I can pack lunch for a week in it and have room left over for all kinds of
cameras plus a spare pair of socks and long sleeve shirt.
Who needs a car and an apartment when you've got this camera bag?
Its not a life style its a life.
With a savings of 444 bucks I can deal with the polyester. Just don't tell
Caroline Kennedy.
And this size a bag if it was heavy cotton canvas like a Domke that would
add a few real pounds to it. So maybe I got off easy. But wish it was black
not rich guy tan.

Gear is like clothing it all starts with the fabric. If the cut is good than
that's nice too.


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> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:39 +0100
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 
> Belstaff
> Leica M8/M9 camera bag
> 
> I own 2 Fogg bags, a B-Laika and a backpack. They are the best quality 
> bags I
> own, with a beautiful finish and effective padding which is not bulky, 
> unlike
> many maker's.
> The B-Laika is old now and battered but holds up well. The backpack is 
> newer
> and made for me by be and Nigel whilst there was no UK distibutor, a level 
> of
> personal service which is IME un-paralleled.
> OTOH you are a bit harsh on Billingham ;-)
> I have one of the original Billinghams, un-named since they only made one
> photo bag then. It also is battered, has stood up well and has non-bulky
> padding.
> The most disappointing bags for me have been Crumpler. I love their web 
> site
> and the multiple choices of size and colour, but the stiff straps, 
> excessive
> velcro and thick padding make them too inconvenient to use for me.
> FD
> 
> On 21 Oct, 2010, at 00:21, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> Fogg bags make Billingham bags look like Kmart specials.
>> 
>> http://www.foggspecialistbags.com/range.htm
> 
> 
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