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Subject: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 Belstaff Leica M8/M9 camera bag
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:47:20 -0400

In the US the preppies do not wear polyester. They don't wear polyester
blends. Some don't ever go into a room in which there was ever any
polyester. That does not get past the bicycle room.
In Europe all these years the well appointed people from what I hear have
never heard of this. They've been wearing  poly from the get go all through
the 80's and 90s but have often called it other names. Microfiber. Now
FibreNyte it seems. And they are Dukes and Earls Princes. People give them
the time of day.
I search engined FibreNyte and all I get is Billingham. Can only guess
its their word for microfiber. Which is our word for real nice polyester.
Which is like saying real nice cow turds.
Polyester makes me sweat. When I touch it it is oddly dry and dead. When you
wash it you wonder if it really got wet. I'm a cotton guy. Wool even.
Fabrics which live and breath. Canvas it said was originally made from not
cotton but hemp. I'm ok with plants. Not keen on the chemistry lab making
the fabrics of my life.



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> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:55:15 +0530
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 
> Belstaff
> Leica M8/M9 camera bag
> 
> Mark,
> Both Cotton Canvas and Synthetic Canvas (FibreNyte - which is 100%
> synthetic), depending on the bag:
> 
> http://www.billingham.co.uk/acatalog/Materials.html
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Billingham bags look great but feel terrible it ruins it for me, Frank!
>> They feel like polyester only because they ARE polyester. a cotton
>> polyester
>> blend The emphasis being on the polyester. I really think its 80% poly 20%
>> cotton. My fingertips have preppy sensors. To me that's just plan odd and 
>> a
>> truly misplaced choice on their part sure it makes the bag lighter and not
>> fade and do better in the wash but if you put a short stack of filters in
>> there it gets rid of any difference in the weight department and there is
>> nothing more annoying than a bag which always looks new. Never fades or
>> ages. To me that's not a bag that's formaldehyde with straps and a handle.
>> 
>> Fogg bags are all cotton. Feel great. Fade and shrink wonderfully.
>> Just like Domke bags are. cotton canvas. Thick. The semi stiffness acts in
>> a
>> way like padding even though its not.
>> 
>> Billingham bags are ubiquitous with rich guy types they can be acquired at
>> the usual suspect outlets.
>> Fogg bags are centered in the UK and require some doing to figure out how
>> to
>> grab onto over here in the US. They also cost twice as much.
>> And are also it looks to me designed twice better. And have better names.
>> 
>> I'm hard on Billingham bags. But this hardness comes from my reaction to
>> people who think they are the be all and end all in a luxury camera bag.
>> They've just NOT done their homework. And people should always do their
>> homework. THEN go out and play.
>> 
>> But I have a  Billingham 300 bag I got used for 99 bucks used and as it 
>> was
>> in Oregon no tax or license. Its comparable to the 555 they sell now which
>> goes for 555 bucks give or take.
>> I can pack lunch for a week in it and have room left over for all kinds of
>> cameras plus a spare pair of socks and long sleeve shirt.
>> Who needs a car and an apartment when you've got this camera bag?
>> Its not a life style its a life.
>> With a savings of 444 bucks I can deal with the polyester. Just don't tell
>> Caroline Kennedy.
>> And this size a bag if it was heavy cotton canvas like a Domke that would
>> add a few real pounds to it. So maybe I got off easy. But wish it was 
>> black
>> not rich guy tan.
>> 
>> Gear is like clothing it all starts with the fabric. If the cut is good
>> than
>> that's nice too.
>> 
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:39 +0100
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850
>> Belstaff
>>> Leica M8/M9 camera bag
>>> 
>>> I own 2 Fogg bags, a B-Laika and a backpack. They are the best quality
>> bags I
>>> own, with a beautiful finish and effective padding which is not bulky,
>> unlike
>>> many maker's.
>>> The B-Laika is old now and battered but holds up well. The backpack is
>> newer
>>> and made for me by be and Nigel whilst there was no UK distibutor, a
>> level of
>>> personal service which is IME un-paralleled.
>>> OTOH you are a bit harsh on Billingham ;-)
>>> I have one of the original Billinghams, un-named since they only made one
>>> photo bag then. It also is battered, has stood up well and has non-bulky
>>> padding.
>>> The most disappointing bags for me have been Crumpler. I love their web
>> site
>>> and the multiple choices of size and colour, but the stiff straps,
>> excessive
>>> velcro and thick padding make them too inconvenient to use for me.
>>> FD
>>> 
>>> On 21 Oct, 2010, at 00:21, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Fogg bags make Billingham bags look like Kmart specials.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.foggspecialistbags.com/range.htm
>>> 
>>> 
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