Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm wondering if Ken ever had any stint at all a pro photography I got the impression he was a software designer. I think there is a lot of info out there on the internet on how to do or not do pro photography from software designers and other people who never sold a photograph or charged out an hour in their lives. -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ mark at rabinergroup.com Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > From: Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:11:07 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Making a living as a photographer > > Well he sounds like a whiner! Oh and shooting for Hollywood and a nice > payment? > > How be I tell you I was hired to shoot the promo photography for the John > Travalto movie "URBAN COWBOY!" Oh yeah and on the 5 day shoot? I was paid > $9000.oo plus expenses! Damn life is tough being an independent shooter. > :-) > Yep didn't get those every month or so. WHY? > > Well hell man I was shooting on other projects that paid better. :-) > > So maybe you and your buddy Ken missed the boat some how!! ;-) :-) > > cheers, > ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin at gmail.com> > To: "Leica LUG" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Making a living as a photographer > > >> After I wrote my little polemic, I came across this article by Ken >> Rockwell. >> He says it better than I could. >> Larry Z >> - - - - - - >> >> *Professional Photography* >> >> Ken Rockwell >> >> Would you like to photograph anything you want, anywhere you want, anytime >> you want, any way you want, with a great professional camera system? Would >> you love to travel to luxury destinations and photograph whatever, >> whenever >> you want? >> >> *The only way to do this is to keep your real job and do photography on >> your >> own time.* >> >> If you want to photograph professionally you'll make less money, have to >> shoot the boring stuff in crappy >> locations<http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/crappylocations.htm>for >> which you're hired, shoot it the way the client wants, and probably >> have >> to shoot everything as if it's some big emergency every time. You'll >> probably only be able to afford beat up old gear that's "good enough." >> >> Making a buck in photography is a lot tougher than keeping a real job. The >> photo jobs and locations that pay the most are the most boring. Think >> you're >> going to have people hiring you as a travel photographer? Guess again. >> >> It's *exactly* like golf or surfing. Golf is fun, and it's almost >> impossible >> to get people to pay you to do it. Only one guy in ten million makes lots >> of >> money in surfing, photography or acting. Everyone else who makes the money >> does it in something allied to the field, like making or selling product >> or >> the dream. >> >> We all know the few actors who pull in $20 million per movie. Did you know >> the average annual income of the many SAG <http://www.sag.org/> (Screen >> Actors' Guild) members, the majority of whom we've never heard, is >> something >> more like $20,000? The SAG website's FAQ page offers this advice on how to >> become a performer: *"Develop another career to supplement your >> income."*People pay photographers less than actors. >> >> A person who studied stage lighting in college and worked in Hollywood >> discovered that almost no one makes it in the fun job of lighting. The >> people who make more money more regularly are those who become lighting >> salesmen. >> >> Who makes more: an actor, or an agent who earns 10% from each of the 20 >> clients they represent? >> >> If you want to make money in photography, it's probably not by doing >> photography. >> >> You can become a super star photographer, but it's all in your >> self-promotion and luck. If you want it hard enough you can do it. In >> America you can do anything you can imagine, however if you want to make >> money and have fun making photos there are easier ways to live. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information