Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/07

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Subject: [Leica] Poor color prints from HP 9100
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 03:46:52 -0800
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Further to this fiasco:

I am using Win7, PS CS1 (!) and trial mode CS5. The reason I haven't
upgraded PS in ages is because I mainly use Lr2.x and now LR3.x, but I need
PS to do digital negatives.

As I am using Win7, at least I do not suffer from the Snow Leopard / Epson
issues.

However, I did print a digital negative calibration chart out on the same
sheet of film and so they are processed the same way:

- ACPU, Adobe Color Printing Utility (supposedly print without any color
management)
- CS5, with Adobe RGB ->Adobe RGB null transform
- CS1, print with "Same as Source" and "Application Manages Colors" (no
color management)

This is on a HP Z3100. I scan results with an Epson Expression 1000XL so
it's not as accurate as a densitometer. However, the results are clear:

- ACPU scales the output. This is consistent for letter size and my pano
size of 8.5x22". May be it is a bad interaction with HP driver. I do not
know, but the behavior is again consistent.

- CS5 with null transform and CS1 with no color management produce output
that are virtually the same. Any measurable differences is probably due to
the digital negative->contact print->scan workflow.

- ACPU output is VASTLY different from the other two.

My conclusion is that ACPU is a piece of junk. In addition to who knows what
it's printing, it:
- has a lousy UI
- scales your images
- doesn't even have the courtesy to remember the last folder
- open TIFF only

Someone is asleep at the wheel in Adobe.


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// richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/>
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