Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks for the tip Mark, I'll do that as soon as I retire and get a real job as tax heavened pro photog ;-) OTT I meant shiFt and not shi.t ... really sorry Got to drive 100 miles in snow now - been snowing all morning Amiti?s Philippe Le 20 d?c. 10 ? 12:56, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > > Why not rent one for the weekend if you can think of something you > really > need to shoot with it? Medium format digital cameras are rented I > think more > than bought. Write it off somehow as an expense!?!? > > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > mark at rabinergroup.com > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:49:47 +0100 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 success (or lack thereof) >> >> Agreed Douglas, >> >> I said quite a while ago that Leica needed a paradigm shit if they >> were to survive and prosper. >> Now the move they've made doesn't suit me, what can I do ... >> >> But they will always find Davos dwellers, Rolex, Veyron, and cruising >> ships owners who will want an S2. >> All the better for them all. >> >> Were I one of them, I'd give it a try, and sell it if not convenient >> Well sell? why? no need to get through the ordeal of doing so. >> My time is more precious to me. >> Just forget about it. >> >> >> In the meantime, I hope I will anyhow enjoy viewing some beautiful >> results some day :-) >> >> Frohe Weihnachten >> Philippe >> >> >> Le 20 d?c. 10 ? 11:48, Douglas Sharp a ?crit : >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> the fact is that Leica have been absolutely overwhelmed by the >>> success of the M9 and the S2. The are working their wotsits off >>> trying to catch up with an order backlog like they've never seen >>> before. It doesn't matter one iota who is buying the gear - if it >>> is making Leica a going concern, we can all be happy. Leica is doing >>> a lot of PR trying to make the S2 better known to professionals (at >>> least in Germany, so far) and has, as yet, had only positive >>> feedback - even down to things like how long you can shoot with one >>> battery charge. >>> >>> Maybe lots of potentates and oligarchs are buying it, but so what - >>> the more S2s there are out there, the more people become aware of it >>> and the brand, and more will be ordered and sold. >>> >>> As to the M9Ti, the book that's included with it states clearly that >>> it is Leica's "concept car" and has features that could be employed >>> in later models. >>> >>> The new design is clear, simple and unostentatious - precisely what >>> Leicas have been right from the word go - maybe purists don't like >>> it, but purists even shied away from the idea of a digital Leica R >>> (sacrilege!!)at first, and when they didn't get one (R10), they all >>> started moaning. >>> >>> Is there a better way of paying for your R+D costs? I doubt it. A >>> very clever move by Leica, and one that highlights their joint >>> sponsoring efforts with the VW Group (and Audi as a premium brand) >>> e.g. http://www.sbc2010.de/ It's pretty obvious where their target >>> groups are - and it's not us. >>> >>> Leica are getting their products placed in the rarified atmosphere >>> of premium events like this and are accessing the segments where >>> money is no object. >>> >>> Good for Leica! Their radical turnaround project has worked >>> (although a gamble) and the company is on a relatively firm >>> financial footing for what is, after all, a very small company. They >>> still have quite a way to go, and I, for one, wish them well. >>> >>> It is perhaps interesting to note that what turned Leica around was >>> the fact that they declined to produce what Leicaphiles were asking >>> for and went their own way for a change. >>> >>> Maybe dyed-in-the-wool Leicaphiles are what was holding them back - >>> now they've thrown this age-old conservatism out of the window they >>> seem to be back and doing rather well. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Douglas >>> >>> On 20.12.2010 11:07, Richard Man wrote: >>>> Come on guys. I know no one controls where a thread goes, but do we >>>> have to >>>> hijack it to yet another rant against M9Ti or whatever horse$hit >>>> that >>>> someone happens not to like? >>>> >>>> My conjecture is that just based on some random but imho educated >>>> guesses, >>>> the S2 will do all right by Leica. No one has either call BS on it >>>> or agree >>>> to it, but yet another tangential rant. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> NO ARCHIVE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > NO ARCHIVE