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Subject: [Leica] Well, that was educational
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:21:20 -0800
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Richard Man Offered:
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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: [Leica] Well, that was educational


> re: rejection

Richard my on screen friend let me offer a tidbit about this gallery etc 
competition thing and rejection!

About? Ready? 58 years ago I joined the Ottawa Camera Club so I might learn 
more about being a better photographer and photography in general. They had 
a monthly photo/print competition as most community clubs do.

They also had the "guru if the club," an old guy. :-) Ok that's easy for me 
to relate to these days. :-)  He was "Old Doc. Martin!" Well everything and 
anything he said was gospel. Your photography lived or died according to Old 
Doc Martin and his comments, good, bad or ugly!"

I hung on his words as did many others. That was until other people began 
making very nice comments about my photographs. I was seeing neat things and 
recording same. Others in the club offered praise and many positive remarks 
about my photo results.

One evening it was an open critique and "Old Doc Martin" was doing his 
thing.. He said his piece about a photograph before the enchanted members 
because "Here he was, the God of Photography making comments about a 
photograph!" In many cases he just ravaged unmercifully at times as there 
wasn't anybody who challenged what he said! :-( That's the way it was in the 
real olden days.

Some of the older folks, usually the very devoted senior lady photographers 
would shed a tear at his ravaging commentary about their photograph. As it 
was I had entered one that I thought was pretty damn good, Even "she who 
must be obeyed" was very positive about it.

So I made a 16X20 wet tray double weight E surface paper print and man I was 
glowing in pride about it. :-)Yet humble! Because I was still the "new kid" 
on the block with all the elder folks in the club. Many I secretively 
admired their photographic ability. But I did kind of feel I was catching up 
to some of them on occasion! :-)

In any event there was "Old Doc Martin" holding my print on high and ranting 
on about any number of tiddly things, but never offering anything positive 
in how to make it a better photograph! Oh he was great at reaming yer butt, 
no problem! Rarely did he ever offer "HOW TO FIX IT!"  Make it better. 
Believe me that isn't anyway to critique! PERIOD! Nobody learns anything!

I sat there almost petrified as he ranted on. Then I thought, "UP YOURS!" 
Now consider this is a twenty something kid so wet behind the ears I was 
still dripping! Got up, walked to the front where he was still holding my 
print on high,  took it out of his hands before he realized what was 
happening. Tore it up and threw it in the air!

"Screw you and your BS!" And I walked out until about twenty years later 
when the Ottawa Camera Club asked me if I would judge and critique their 
annual photo competition. :-)

The first thing I did after my introduction was to relate the above story of 
many years past! Fortunately it turned out much to their delight! ;-) And 
yes I did kick butt! Not every picture is a good one! But I did offer how it 
might or should have been shot to improve the final image. Trust me, they 
did learn that evening, it wasn't just ranting! :-)

So my friend it comes down to "we, ourselves are the most important person 
to be satisfied with our photography! PERIOD! " If we in our hearts and 
minds produce a quality we are proud to have "OUR NAME" on the photograph, 
then in 99.99% of the time all viewers will see the same goodness in it. :-) 
For what it's worth.

cheers,
Dr. ted



















>
> I did not get juried into a "gallery show" course. Congratulations to Bob
> Adler though as he will be showing his stuff at the group show in March.
>
> The thoughts of selling all my gears and take up... something else 
> occurred
> to me. But I figured I should just "pick up the pieces and soldier on,
> soldier on"
>
> I talked to the gallery owners and the instructor. They made it clear that
> the format, and the content in my portfolio generally are OK, but the
> printing and post processing need more "punch."
>
> While I know people have different preferences on printing and
> post-processing, I agree with their general assessment and more 
> importantly,
> this is a technicality and techniques I know I can tweak and improve. I
> would be more concerned if the content fails. As an artist, it's sometimes
> difficult to ascertain whether an image is a good image or whether one is
> deluding oneself.
>
> Techniques I can handle. After all, it's only in early Nov that I started
> the digital negative contact printing.
>
> More printing and full speed ahead.
> -- 
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