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Subject: [Leica] WAS : WAS WAS Barcelona in color
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:09:45 +0200
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Le 15 avr. 11 ? 16:44, Jayanand Govindaraj a ?crit :

>
> Philippe,
> Both the songs are familiar - the second is definitely "I Will Wait  
> For You"
the music is by French composer Michel Legrand who then spent some  
time in the US - I didn't know there had been versions in English ,  
thanks.
http://www.google.fr/search?q=michel+legrand&tbo=p&tbm=vid&source=vgc&hl=fr&aq=f

> - what is the name of the first?
Les parapluies de Cherbourg,
and Les Demoiselles de Rochefort
after the films ...

> The voices seem dubbed,

They are -  it is an old movie, both are in fact.
Starring Catherine Deneuve - and her late sister - the most beautiful  
French woman ever ( Bardot comes second to many)
http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=deneuve&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=1068

More about the making of, but I'm afraid it's in French ...
It says the Parapluies (umbrellas) was a long experimental process
http://www.canal-u.tv/producteurs/la_cinematheque_francaise/dossier_programmes/l_experience_cinema_michel_legrand_et_la_musique_de_film/michel_legrand_et_la_musique_de_film_4_8_le_travail_avec_jacques_demy

Amiti?s
Ph




> and the style owes
> a lot to Jon Hendricks and Manhattan Transfer, I am sure I have  
> heard one of
> them sing it.
>
> Nathan,
> Brilliant photograph.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM, philippe.amard  
> <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>wrote:
>
>> Beautifully balanced composition and tones - it sings!
>>
>> In between Fred Astair and a crossbreed of
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uopjMuYY3F8
>> and
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JS4JMY0JWM
>>
>> Rain sometimes helps a photog,
>> in that respect I should feel a happy camper ;-)
>>
>> Great great photo Nathan
>>
>> Amiti?s
>> Philippe
>>
>> Le 15 avr. 11 ? 09:02, Nathan Wajsman a ?crit :
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ted,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you are thinking about this one, from Seville in 2003  
>>> or 2004?
>>>
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/night/content/L2004_14_12_large.html
>>>
>>> That was one of my most-commented-upon pictures ever.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:43 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> 
>>>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lawrence Zeitlin offered
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Barcelona in color
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathan,
>>>>> Not trolling at all. I was just curious. Many of the pictures  
>>>>> that you
>>>>> post
>>>>> in and around Alicante are about people too, yet you usually  
>>>>> shoot in
>>>>> color.<<<,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>> That may be true, however some of Nathan's more spectacular  
>>>> photographs
>>>> over the years have been people in B&W! There is one I recall  
>>>> from several
>>>> years ago at night with a few people on the street. I believe  
>>>> Madrid?
>>>> Barcelona? Or some other location prior to his moving to  
>>>> Alicante? It was
>>>> most eye catching simply because it was in  B&W!
>>>>
>>>> I reject Dr. Ted's pat aphorism that when you photograph people in
>>>>> color,
>>>>> you photograph their clothes but when you shoot B&W you  
>>>>> photograph their
>>>>> soul. <<<
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Be my guest and reject all you like my friend. :-) However let me  
>>>> give an
>>>> example.:-) True incident in the UK several years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Two photographers with a portrait studio decided they'd only  
>>>> shoot B&W
>>>> portraits. They completely renovated the studio front windows, re- 
>>>> opening as
>>>> a B&W portraits only! In the front exhibit space they placed  
>>>> beautiful B&W
>>>> portrait prints and advertised they only did their portraits in  
>>>> B&W.
>>>>
>>>> Clients who insisted on colour were offered B&W or the doorway!  
>>>> One would
>>>> think them a bit looney given this was the beginning of a new  
>>>> operation and
>>>> one would surely want every dollar possible.
>>>>
>>>> However? Given it being a very fine portrait studio originally  
>>>> with a
>>>> great number of clients prior to the change over. Within the  
>>>> first three
>>>> months they tripled the gross income shooting only B&W! Whatever  
>>>> it is about
>>>> B&W drew a wonderful new clientele.
>>>>
>>>> Actually the difference is the "content" creates which is greater  
>>>> in many
>>>> cases.
>>>>
>>>> Disasters generally look worse in B&W simply because the content is
>>>> usually violent and death! Of course not in every case. What is  
>>>> the B&W
>>>> photograph that comes to mind from Vietnam? I have two without  
>>>> question.
>>>> Eddie Adams photo of the police officer shooting the VC through  
>>>> the head and
>>>> the young girl running away from the Napalm with her clothes and  
>>>> body burnt.
>>>> Vivid B&W both! And colour wouldn't have added anything!
>>>>
>>>> Imagine Matthew Brady's problem trying to photograph the US Civil  
>>>> war in
>>>>>> color using the wet collodion process.<<
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I doubt they'd be any better! As most are "classic content"  
>>>> images to
>>>> start with, so I doubt colour would've improved them at all.   
>>>> Regardless of
>>>> the technical situation. Along those lines if we compare the  
>>>> dramatic B&W
>>>> movies of the past, quite often these days we see with "colour  
>>>> added." Quite
>>>> frankly they look quite horrid as the colour adds absolutely  
>>>> nothing, but
>>>> almost destroys the craftsmanship of the lighting people and  
>>>> camera angles .
>>>>
>>>> Colour can in many cases, be a complete distraction from the  
>>>> content. As
>>>> I understand photography, it's the content that is the most  
>>>> important part
>>>> of the photograph.  That is unless one is dabbling strictly in  
>>>> colour for
>>>> colour sake.
>>>>
>>>> So Larry mon ami it's basically "to each his own." I shoot colour  
>>>> when
>>>> the assignment is to be shot in colour and B&W when the  
>>>> assignment is for
>>>> B&W re-production. I would offer, of the 100,000 images in the  
>>>> National
>>>> Gallery of Canada collection they are all B&W documentary images.  
>>>> The
>>>> 280,000 images in the National Archives of Canada collection?  
>>>> It's probably
>>>> 75% B&W, 25% colour. Again simply because of the assignment and  
>>>> whether
>>>> magazine assignments, travel or tourism or whether the client asked
>>>> specifically to shoot in whatever medium.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose if you owned one of my published medical books, "This  
>>>> is Our
>>>> Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler" "Doctor's Work" or "Women in
>>>> Medicine. A celebration of their Work."  You might have a better
>>>> understanding what I mean: "When you photograph people in colour,  
>>>> you
>>>> photograph their clothes. But when you photograph people in B&W,  
>>>> you
>>>> photograph their souls!"
>>>>
>>>> And as far as digital? Quite often I use my Digilux 2 set to  
>>>> shoot B&W
>>>> and I get some very interesting B&W images. Actually the really  
>>>> cool thing
>>>> is, looking through the viewfinder at a B&W world and "Click!" A  
>>>> B&W image
>>>> right out of the camera! :-)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>>>
>>>>
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