Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Am I reading this right? You just affirmed your own opinion in the third person? Wow. Phil Forrest On Wed, 18 May 2011 00:40:59 -0400 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > Great writing Mark I'd just like to add that I think that as digital > capture is a clear advance over film capture and I'd like to go right > on and state that inkjet printing is a clear and present advance over > darkroom printing as well. And I'd like to say that this is not my > quirky minority opinion but I'm just stating the obvious, if not a > consensus than darned close and will be clear consensus quite soon. > > I have zero apologies to make about shooting and printing digital. > Its not a cop out. Its not a short cut. Its where photography has > arrived at this time. > I don't yearn for the glory days of film. I'm too excited about the > pix I'm creating every day to even try to remember it. > > > Mark > > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > > > > > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:25:05 -0400 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10 > > > > The Hasselblad and other cube modular cameras can use differed > > backs. That should have shot them right to the front of the pack > > when the digital thing hit but it didn't because the backs cost > > 40,000 dollars. It did the opposite. > > The Camera back is 90 present of the cost of the digital package. > > I don't think that makes it all that more flexible. > > So when the S2 because the S2.1 or S2.b you get a new camera and a > > second body if you think you have to have those cutting edge specs. > > It does not make the results you've gotten from your S2 untenable > > or unusable. Nor the results you'd get from it in the future though > > you may find yourself a tad less "competitive". > > > > I'm behind the S system I think its brilliant and will prove itself > > over time and be one of the many choices Leica has made in the > > past decade which will make it one of the top camera companies > > again. Just a few years ago it was being talked about on the LUG > > and everywhere else in the past tense. Now its very much a prime > > camera company of the future and present. Everyone wants to see > > that they're up to next. Eyes on them! > > > > Mark > > > > > > -------------------- > > Mark William Rabiner > > Photography > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > mark at rabinergroup.com > > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > > > > > > >> From: Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:38:47 -0400 > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10 > >> > >> Lawrence Zeitlin wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> I do fault Leica for abandoning the upgrading philosophy that > >> served them well in the past. Why should any photographer have to > >> buy an entirely new camera to get an improved sensor or > >> microprocessor? The really expensive parts of the camera, the > >> body, the rangefinder, the viewfinder, and most of the internal > >> mechanisms remain unchanged. <<< > >> > >> I suspect that for a camera produced in the thousands (vs. many > >> tens of thousands) a full-frame sensor and the supporting > >> electronics are the expensive parts. > >> > >>>>> > >> I would have liked Leica to design a modular digital M camera > >> where packages of components could have been easily replaced. > >> Failing that, I would have appreciated a digital back for the M > >> and CL cameras. It worked for the R series. > >> <<< > >> > >> Unfortunately most of the market didn't see the advantages of this > >> approach in the R series. Along with improved sensors and > >> processors the market wanted ever-improved AF, storage options, > >> frame rates and other such features. A few electronic upgrades > >> may be possible without also upgrading data bus, power supply, > >> heat dissipation, & card writers but sooner or later (usually > >> sooner) the camera's technology as originally built hits the wall > >> and the upgraded camera's performance will be throttled by a > >> non-upgradeable component. > >> > >> During the LTM era upgrades were feasible because labor was > >> relativley inexpensive and the pace of equipment technology change > >> was much slower than we see now. It makes little economic sense > >> to use expensive labor to upgrade an existing camera that will be > >> limited by its older technology when a replacement camera not > >> limited by older components costs less. > >> > >> Doug Herr > >> Birdman of Sacramento > >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at > >> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information