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Subject: [Leica] Re; What film did HCB use?
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:26:57 +0930
References: <BANLkTimYr835W6zzUfbCTE040QbjsP4V=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Make an appointment - go to the Foundation - you can see his
negatives.  That's a good way to find out - for certain.  I've done
it; I didn't specifically note the film types, but some were certainly
XX.

Marty


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> No one knows for sure what film HCB used in the 40s and 50s. However it was
> probably one of the then popular high speed panchromatic emulsions. My
> wayback machine tells me that in the late 40s this group consisted of Kodak
> Super XX Pan, Koddak Plus X Pan, Ansco Supreme, Ansco Ultra Speed Pan, and 
> a
> few European films by Ilford, Agfa, and Adox. These emulsions could all be
> characterized as having low contrast, long scale, excellent exposure
> latitude, and soft gradation. By modern standards they would be considered
> grainy. The average speed of this group was listed as 40 to 80 ASA although
> every working photographer at the time knew that the films could be pushed
> to significantly higher speeds.
>
>
> Interestingly, ten years later the same films were listed as having much
> higher speeds. In the early 50s Super XX was advertised as an ASA 200 film.
> Plus X an ASA 125 film. I don't know if this was an actual change in the
> emulsion or a change in the speed rating system. Perhaps both.
>
>
> Tri-X changed the game when it was introduced in 1954. It had a "no funny
> business" ASA speed of 400 and literally blew Super XX away. I was a 
> working
> photographer during this era and the difference between films was like day
> and night. Kodak even published techniques for using Tri-X at speeds
> equivalent to ASA 3200 or 6400, although at a considerable increase in
> graininess.
>
>
> So whatever film HCB used, you are not likely to find a duplicate unless 
> you
> find a few rolls frozen in a glacier. Even if the name is the same, films
> have changed a lot in the last 50 years.
>
>
> Larry Z
>
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