Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/10

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Subject: [Leica] HCB negative
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:29:32 +0930
References: <BANLkTim5KratZ=Qwft1h6Ud=L5VpMj_Kbw@mail.gmail.com> <p06230908ca18328f7c0d@10.0.1.4> <BANLkTi=_Ac2Z8Vt+5cQBVrqiUZGwZBQrVg@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTi=T1UnDvaxm=8tY39v_LV2xncU5pA@mail.gmail.com>

The 100 and 400 speed Foma films are very old school too, and even the
200 speed film, although using modern emulsion components, still looks
old school.

Marty

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
wrote:
> Acros-100 is a great film, but it is about as far as the old film as you 
> can
> get. Very nice and clean.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:15 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> I might try some Efke 50 or 100. I've heard some good reports on
>> Neopan Acros-100 too. Anyone using this film?
>>
>> Jim Laird
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at 
>> archiphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I was talking to Tom Abrahamsson this morning, and he recollected as did
>> I
>> > that HCB said once when asked about the sprocket hole strip, and why it
>> was
>> > missing: 'I ate them', implying at least that he had done it for 
>> > whatever
>> > reason, and that this is likely the original.
>> >
>> > On the other hand we're all just guessing and inferring from hearsay, 
>> > and
>> > probably the full 'truth' will never come out anymore. And it really
>> doesn't
>> > matter.
>> >
>> > As far as 'old style' film is concerned, some of the stuff that Efke
>> markets
>> > comes closer than today's Tri-X and HP5+ or other films from the majors.
>> The
>> > Efke offerings come from a couple of different manufacturers and are
>> based
>> > on old Adox and Orwo emulsions. MACO also produces some (and Efke 
>> > markets
>> > some of those, as well).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 1:53 PM -0400 6/10/11, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Henning is right! I stand corrected. I based my original conclusion on
>> >> measuring the image on an iPad. But enlarged on a 20" screen, and 
>> >> making
>> >> allowance for the foreshortening, I estimate that the negative strip is
>> >> 27.5
>> >> mm wide. A row of perforations could have been snipped off and still
>> leave
>> >> the full image frame. Why that was done is hard to say. Damage? 
>> >> Stripped
>> >> sprocket holes?
>> >>
>> >> The fact that the film was snipped does not mean that the negative 
>> >> shown
>> >> was
>> >> not a copy. E. Leitz (remember them?) made several devices for
>> duplicating
>> >> film strips including the Elida Film Printer, the Eldur Contact 
>> >> Printer,
>> >> and
>> >> the Kopat Combination Printer. One of the major scientific uses of the
>> >> Leica
>> >> camera was copying rare artifacts and manuscripts in situ. Leitz itself
>> >> suggested that distribution prints of rarities be produced from copy
>> >> negatives to avoid excessive handling and potential damage to
>> >> irreplaceable
>> >> original images. The HCB jump negative probably fits in that category.
>> >> Interestingly Leitz never suggested blowing up the negative to 4x5 size
>> to
>> >> make copy prints. The idea probably would have gone against the 35mm
>> bias
>> >> of
>> >> the company. A full description of Leica copying technique is spelled
>> out
>> >> in
>> >> Morgan and Lester's "Leica Manual," especially the editions published
>> >> before
>> >> 1950 when specialized microfilm copying equipment became widely
>> available.
>> >>
>> >> Larry Z
>> >>
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at gmail.com (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] HCB negative)
Message from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] HCB negative)
Message from richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] HCB negative)