Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/26

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Subject: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:22:56 -0400

The issue is not ease of focusing or  stop down shooting but putting an
exquisite and pricey and manual Leica lens designed to cover a 24x36mm area
on a camera which has a 18x13.5mm  format with a diagonal of 22.5mm and is
otherwise a pile of compact electronics.
That does not excite me nor appeal to my common sense.
Should such a camera have at least a 1.5 crop , 1.33 crop or 1x crop and
have no or minor issues as to seamless use I'd be paying more attention to
that.

However this is partly becuae I'm not aware of anybody using such a set up
getting some real results that I can remember seeing.
People talk about their cameras. They don't talk about their pictures.
If someone has a gallery perhaps on the LUG please direct me to it and I'm
sure seeing a body of work done with such an arrangement would get me to
modify my thinking and change my tune. Especially if its an impressive
showing.
I'm talking about a folder with 4/3s pix in it taken with Leica glass on a
GAF-1 body. Or similar 4/3's option which I seem to be dimly aware of.
Perhaps some semi serious application.


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:16:08 +0530
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> 
> Mark,
> As usual, you do not understand context. Well, let me explain. It makes it
> irrelevant to go to a lot of trouble to use Leica M lenses on the camera
> bodies under discussion, when using Lumix and/or Olympus lenses is far more
> efficient and simple, unless you want to shoot wide open or thereabouts,
> which is Leica's strength over the others.
> 
> Have you tried focusing a 90mm Elamrit M lens on a GF-1 body? Not
> surprisingly, I thought you had not. Let me tell you it is no picnic, and I
> would probably just go out and buy a Panasonic 100-300 or something if I
> wanted that range.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The idea that stopping down makes it irrelevant to use Leica lenes is
>> patently absurd. What if you wanted to get something in focus? You need to
>> stop down for most shots. The extremely selective focus thing can only get
>> you so far.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:43:23 +0530
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
>>> 
>>> They work well, as Nathan says, on the GF-1, but they are very difficult
>> to
>>> focus properly wide open on the EVF. If you have to stop down, why use
>> Leica
>>> lenses in the first place? I think the quality of the viewfinder is
>>> critical, so check that out. Alternatively use ultra wides where focusing
>> is
>>> a non issue.
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>> 
>>>> I find that using M lenses on my GF-1 works quite well. I use the
>> adapter
>>>> from Cameraquest. In fact, I just bought the 12mm non-rangefinder
>> coupled CV
>>>> lens, and it works brilliantly on the GF-1. And of course the fact that
>> it
>>>> is not rangefinder-coupled is of no consequence in this case.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>> 
>>>> YNWA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> What's currently  the best way to take my M and ZM lenses to  digital
>>>>> (outside of M8/M9)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I considering buying a Micro 4/3rds body (Olympus, Panasonic) perhaps
>>>> with
>>>>> one indigenous "pancake-type" lens  and the M adapter.  Any issues with
>>>>> metering, manual focussing etc. to be aware of?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which adapter is the best (Novoflex, CameraQuest, EBAY China-made...)?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> 
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Replies: Reply from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?)
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