Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/26

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Subject: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:55:04 +0530
References: <BANLkTimGBabk+x9A6i4uNb2vZRsbhGBTVQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA2D7DE0.10E19%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,
If it does not excite you, do not buy/use it. Simple. Period.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> The issue is not ease of focusing or  stop down shooting but putting an
> exquisite and pricey and manual Leica lens designed to cover a 24x36mm area
> on a camera which has a 18x13.5mm  format with a diagonal of 22.5mm and is
> otherwise a pile of compact electronics.
> That does not excite me nor appeal to my common sense.
> Should such a camera have at least a 1.5 crop , 1.33 crop or 1x crop and
> have no or minor issues as to seamless use I'd be paying more attention to
> that.
>
> However this is partly becuae I'm not aware of anybody using such a set up
> getting some real results that I can remember seeing.
> People talk about their cameras. They don't talk about their pictures.
> If someone has a gallery perhaps on the LUG please direct me to it and I'm
> sure seeing a body of work done with such an arrangement would get me to
> modify my thinking and change my tune. Especially if its an impressive
> showing.
> I'm talking about a folder with 4/3s pix in it taken with Leica glass on a
> GAF-1 body. Or similar 4/3's option which I seem to be dimly aware of.
> Perhaps some semi serious application.
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
> > From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:16:08 +0530
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> >
> > Mark,
> > As usual, you do not understand context. Well, let me explain. It makes
> it
> > irrelevant to go to a lot of trouble to use Leica M lenses on the camera
> > bodies under discussion, when using Lumix and/or Olympus lenses is far
> more
> > efficient and simple, unless you want to shoot wide open or thereabouts,
> > which is Leica's strength over the others.
> >
> > Have you tried focusing a 90mm Elamrit M lens on a GF-1 body? Not
> > surprisingly, I thought you had not. Let me tell you it is no picnic, and
> I
> > would probably just go out and buy a Panasonic 100-300 or something if I
> > wanted that range.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> The idea that stopping down makes it irrelevant to use Leica lenes is
> >> patently absurd. What if you wanted to get something in focus? You need
> to
> >> stop down for most shots. The extremely selective focus thing can only
> get
> >> you so far.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:43:23 +0530
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> >>>
> >>> They work well, as Nathan says, on the GF-1, but they are very
> difficult
> >> to
> >>> focus properly wide open on the EVF. If you have to stop down, why use
> >> Leica
> >>> lenses in the first place? I think the quality of the viewfinder is
> >>> critical, so check that out. Alternatively use ultra wides where
> focusing
> >> is
> >>> a non issue.
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jayanand
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> >>> frozenlight.eu
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jan,
> >>>>
> >>>> I find that using M lenses on my GF-1 works quite well. I use the
> >> adapter
> >>>> from Cameraquest. In fact, I just bought the 12mm non-rangefinder
> >> coupled CV
> >>>> lens, and it works brilliantly on the GF-1. And of course the fact
> that
> >> it
> >>>> is not rangefinder-coupled is of no consequence in this case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Nathan
> >>>>
> >>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
> >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
> >>>>
> >>>> YNWA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>> What's currently  the best way to take my M and ZM lenses to  digital
> >>>>> (outside of M8/M9)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I considering buying a Micro 4/3rds body (Olympus, Panasonic) perhaps
> >>>> with
> >>>>> one indigenous "pancake-type" lens  and the M adapter.  Any issues
> with
> >>>>> metering, manual focussing etc. to be aware of?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Which adapter is the best (Novoflex, CameraQuest, EBAY
> China-made...)?
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Jan
> >>>>>
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