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Subject: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:02:15 +0530
References: <BANLkTiks235edt6xfpLgC4fcy0ZRPkMt_A@mail.gmail.com> <CA2D7F34.10E22%mark@rabinergroup.com>

What use are examples if your mind is closed on this subject?
Cheers
Jayanand


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> So we'll skip the part about if anybody has ever gotten any results out of
> it yet worth looking at I guess.
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
> > From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:55:04 +0530
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> >
> > Mark,
> > If it does not excite you, do not buy/use it. Simple. Period.
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> The issue is not ease of focusing or  stop down shooting but putting an
> >> exquisite and pricey and manual Leica lens designed to cover a 24x36mm
> area
> >> on a camera which has a 18x13.5mm  format with a diagonal of 22.5mm and
> is
> >> otherwise a pile of compact electronics.
> >> That does not excite me nor appeal to my common sense.
> >> Should such a camera have at least a 1.5 crop , 1.33 crop or 1x crop and
> >> have no or minor issues as to seamless use I'd be paying more attention
> to
> >> that.
> >>
> >> However this is partly becuae I'm not aware of anybody using such a set
> up
> >> getting some real results that I can remember seeing.
> >> People talk about their cameras. They don't talk about their pictures.
> >> If someone has a gallery perhaps on the LUG please direct me to it and
> I'm
> >> sure seeing a body of work done with such an arrangement would get me to
> >> modify my thinking and change my tune. Especially if its an impressive
> >> showing.
> >> I'm talking about a folder with 4/3s pix in it taken with Leica glass on
> a
> >> GAF-1 body. Or similar 4/3's option which I seem to be dimly aware of.
> >> Perhaps some semi serious application.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:16:08 +0530
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> >>>
> >>> Mark,
> >>> As usual, you do not understand context. Well, let me explain. It makes
> >> it
> >>> irrelevant to go to a lot of trouble to use Leica M lenses on the
> camera
> >>> bodies under discussion, when using Lumix and/or Olympus lenses is far
> >> more
> >>> efficient and simple, unless you want to shoot wide open or
> thereabouts,
> >>> which is Leica's strength over the others.
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried focusing a 90mm Elamrit M lens on a GF-1 body? Not
> >>> surprisingly, I thought you had not. Let me tell you it is no picnic,
> and
> >> I
> >>> would probably just go out and buy a Panasonic 100-300 or something if
> I
> >>> wanted that range.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jayanand
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> >>> rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The idea that stopping down makes it irrelevant to use Leica lenes is
> >>>> patently absurd. What if you wanted to get something in focus? You
> need
> >> to
> >>>> stop down for most shots. The extremely selective focus thing can only
> >> get
> >>>> you so far.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:43:23 +0530
> >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They work well, as Nathan says, on the GF-1, but they are very
> >> difficult
> >>>> to
> >>>>> focus properly wide open on the EVF. If you have to stop down, why
> use
> >>>> Leica
> >>>>> lenses in the first place? I think the quality of the viewfinder is
> >>>>> critical, so check that out. Alternatively use ultra wides where
> >> focusing
> >>>> is
> >>>>> a non issue.
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <
> photo at frozenlight.eu
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jan,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I find that using M lenses on my GF-1 works quite well. I use the
> >>>> adapter
> >>>>>> from Cameraquest. In fact, I just bought the 12mm non-rangefinder
> >>>> coupled CV
> >>>>>> lens, and it works brilliantly on the GF-1. And of course the fact
> >> that
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> is not rangefinder-coupled is of no consequence in this case.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
> >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>>>> What's currently  the best way to take my M and ZM lenses to
>  digital
> >>>>>>> (outside of M8/M9)?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I considering buying a Micro 4/3rds body (Olympus, Panasonic)
> perhaps
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> one indigenous "pancake-type" lens  and the M adapter.  Any issues
> >> with
> >>>>>>> metering, manual focussing etc. to be aware of?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Which adapter is the best (Novoflex, CameraQuest, EBAY
> >> China-made...)?
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>
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