Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/30

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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:37:59 -0500
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Here is another try:

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/CRW_1654trial.jpg.html

It is just a trial.  I didn't do a very good job of cutting the mask, 
and the rooster's "colors" are off, but I can work on it some.  The 
adobe wall behind him is from the St. Francis of Assisi church in NM.  
Probably all kinds of heresy going on here.

Ken

On 6/30/2011 5:14 PM, Ken Carney wrote:
> Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.  It was my fault not to 
> locate a better background - to tell the truth I was in a bit of a 
> hurry to get out of there.  I do need to bring out detail in the 
> rooster.    I did punch up the contrast, but that's the way I saw the 
> image - sort of gritty.  It is a scan from a Kodachrome 25 converted 
> to b&w in Nik Silver Efex2.  Actually, now that I think of it, the 
> best solution is just to mask the background and put him in front of a 
> stone wall or similar.   Back to the drawing board once more.
>
> Ken
>
> On 6/29/2011 10:27 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>> That's the problem with grab shots, no lighting control.
>> If the guy was accommodating, as it appears he was, you could of 
>> walked him over to a better location, within a 20-30 foot radius.
>> I pulled it off the page and ran it through PS. While there are a few 
>> tweezes that can be can done, it looked essentially the same. The 
>> flare on the shoulder was easy to take care of. But it's all those 
>> areas in the background that are really tedious to deal with. Also, 
>> the chicken is too flat.
>> Then there's always the old standby, when in doubt, flash fill.
>> Scene fidelity tests, as a rule of thumb, should always be done prior 
>> to any shooting, per specific location. It doesn't matter if it's an 
>> auditorium, or a beach scape (which I dealt with over the past 24 
>> hours).
>> The custom space, sometimes marked C on a wheel, should be used to 
>> save key settings for lighting situation you're already familiar with.
>> On paper, Mark, I would of printed it with a 3 filter, and then 
>> burned the face slightly with the #5, to separate the values.
>> S.d.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>> I think that there is no information in that area what so ever and 
>>> you are
>>> right drying to darken it would make it worse. Though I'd lower the 
>>> contrast
>>> of the entire pic by quite a bit and that might help a bit.
>>> Some Photoshop major players would experiment with "cloning" in 
>>> detail from
>>> the pattern of the jacket. I'm sure if it came to that that could be 
>>> done.
>>> The image really to me looks way  jacked up in contrast like it 
>>> could have
>>> been printed on 3 but you've printed it on Brovira 6.
>>>
>>> It looks like a scan from print. Can you find the neg and give it a 
>>> go from
>>> that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0500
>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
>>>>
>>>> LUG:
>>>>
>>>> Here is an image I would like to print, but there is a flaw.  There 
>>>> is a
>>>> flare on the right shoulder of the dude holding the fighting 
>>>> chicken.  I
>>>> would like to get rid of it, but so far nothing has worked.  Perhaps
>>>> nothing will work since there is no detail at all there.  I remember
>>>> Ansel Adam's photo of the Pioneer Woman, where he regretted the blown
>>>> out area on her shoulder, but concluded any fix would just worsen it.
>>>> Of course, Ansel did not have PS for better or for worse.  Thanks very
>>>> much for any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+cocksBW2.jpg.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>> (I took this with the fabled Summicron f/2 - how come there is 
>>>> something
>>>> less than perfect?)
>>>>
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