[Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

You are putting gorgeous Leica R glass on a cheap cropped camera marketed to
amateurs and calling it "personal choice".  I think of something else to
call it. One can do any damned dumb thing and file it under "personal
choice".

- putting Leica glass designed for full frame on a cropped camera is a real
enigma especially the Leica glass cost what it cost and they tend to be in
relation to Canon/Nikon - bloated; the reason being they are taking great
steps to make sure they are excellent way out to the edges.

If you have great Leica R glass you want to put to good use for sure wait
for the extra pay checks or whatever to come in and get a full frame camera.
Preferably a D700 or D3.
Putting them on a cropped camera at this point is nothing short of
exasperating.
-- 
Mark R.



> From: Aram Langhans <leicar at q.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:18:13 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204
> 
> Hi Peter.  I bought the D7000 in November and have loved it.  It was
> replacing a Canon XTi.  As you have noted, the viewfinder is not as good as
> a D700, but it is way better than all the other cropped cameras I have 
> seen,
> except maybe the Canon 7D (equal).  I have converted a few Leica R lenses 
> to
> Nikon mount and they work well. My biggest concern was the viewfinder of my
> old Rebel, but the D7000 viewfinder is very usable for my 61 year old eyes.
> 
> I opted for it rather than the D700 mainly for size and weight.  I have no
> doubt that the D700 is a better body, but it was not that much better that
> size/weight did not win out hand down with the D7000.  I can easily get
> usable photos at ISO 1600.  Not needed to go any higher yet, so I am not
> sure about 3200.  Easy button placement compared to my Rebel.   If you are
> really into telephoto shots (don't think you are), then the crop factor
> helps a lot.  Less weighty lenses and less expensive lenses, and using the
> "sweet spot" of the sensor.  Wide angle is another issue, but solvable.  I
> did not have any real wide Leica glass, so I have opted for Nikon glass to
> get me wide.
> 
> I think Marty sums it up nicely.  Personal choice based on the advantages 
> of
> each for your shooting style.  Quality, I don't think you can go wrong with
> either.
> 
> Aram
> 
> 
>> To: lug <lug at leica-users.org>
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>> Today I was at Glazer's in Seattle, and had a chance to handle two
>> cameras that interest me--the Nikon D700 and D7000.  I've long had a bit
>> of D700-lust, as it is one of the best available-dark cameras out there.
>> I liked the big viewfinder of the D700 But after hefting them both, I
>> looked at the D700 and thought, "would you really carry that around
>> much?" Hmm--maybe not. Still, the ability to shoot at ISO 3200 like I
>> shoot the M8 at 800 is very tempting.
>> 
>> On the other hand, the D7000 seems like a "Goldilocks" camera--a lot
>> about it is "just right." It felt good in my hands. The viewfinder is
>> not as spacious as the D700, but quite usable. The new sensor (also in
>> the Pentax K5) has previously unheard-of performance (for an APS-C
>> sensor) in both dynamic range and low light ability. There are buttons
>> for the commonly-used functions. The shutter is relatively quiet (the
>> D700 is MUCH louder). Dpreview and DXOMark comparisons indicate it might
>> have a 1-stop low-light advantage over the M8, compared to the D700's 2
>> stops or more. But that's lab tests.  How about in real life?
>> 
>> So...  I would be interested in anyone's experience with the D700 and/or
>> D7000--particularly those who can compare it to the M8 or M9.  I know
>> the difference between an SLR and a rangefinder. I'm most interested in
>> image quality, handling, and real-world available-dark performance. K5
>> users are welcome to chime in, too.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>  
> 
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