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Subject: [Leica] Brian's Presentation - K3 inks
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:00:54 -0400

Some day someone will invent a little machine which looks almost just like a
microwave. You set it to a date. Wait a minute. And see what your prints or
chicken pot pie looks like in the year 2525.
Till that day comes its just people making what they think are educated
guess  based on shining a bank of florescent lights on it and some other
mumbo jumbo. Its the emperors new clothes if you belie it. These people
rally have no idea.  They'll tell you it will last 73 years and when they
face in 30 or last 200 years they'll be long gone.
If the materials stabiles then after a few decades they'll at least know
that the stuff you do then will be good for at least a few decades. Unless
the atmosphere of the earth changes. Which does seem likely.
Threes a lot of variables with "time".
Stuff happens. 
Things change.
No one can tell you what something is going to look like in 20 years.
Unless its a thing like a ceramic plate or a cast iron pan.
-- 
Mark R.



> From: Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:38:44 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Brian's Presentation - K3 inks
> 
> I suspect that the dating has to do with the fact that in time the pigments
> settle to whatever the bottom of  the cart is. Shake well before using. Not
> just yourself.
> 
> Bill Pearce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Pope
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:29 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Brian's Presentation - K3 inks
> 
> What I don't understand is why these inks have a 'best before' date.  If
> the pigments are designed to last for many decades, then this doesn't
> make sense.  But then, even table salt has a best before date these days 
> :-|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Pope,
> Swindon, Wilts
> UK
> 
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> On 16/08/2011 18:22, Robert Meier wrote:
>> My Epson printer will make prints that will last 100 to 200 years
>> without fading or loss of color with their K3 inks, according to
>> independent tests.
>> 
>> Would those prints, then, be the best and safest way to preserve images?
>> That is, would they be better than any hard drive or C or any other
>> electronic means?
>> 
>> 
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