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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Learning to Use Histograms
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:30:15 -0500
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Thanks for this comment, Bob.  Since the Oly E-1 is 4/3 format CCD, it does 
not necessarily respond in the same manner as the more popular sensors.  I 
find that I have to treat my E-510 (4/3 CMOS) differently from the E-1.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Learning to Use Histograms


> My experience indicates that it depends on the chip.
> I've found that with 3/4 chips, drawing out blacks is difficult and noisy.
> I've found that with Medium Format backs, there is an incredible amount of
> detail in the black that can be recovered.
> Full size 35mm chips are in the middle somewhere.
> CMOS is different than CCD.
> Basically, trial and error, as Jim is doing, seems to work best for me 
> with
> my different outfits.
> YMMV,
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Chris Saganich <csaganich at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> I would be interested to see full sunlight, if tempering the highlights
>> destroys the shadow detail.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks, Bob.  And the whites don't flare as bad!
>> >
>> >
>> > Jim Nichols
>> > Tullahoma, TN USA
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Learning to Use Histograms
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Very nice Jim. Whiter whites; redder reds! ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Bob Adler
>> >> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:40 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  My posting of the late Rose of Sharon image led to discussions on the
>> Oly
>> >>> list about proper exposure.  I have seldom used the histogram to 
>> >>> adjust
>> >>> exposure when making pictures.  I have used it as an indication of
>> proper
>> >>> levels in the post-processing of the image.
>> >>>
>> >>> I went out to try to find the best exposure adjustment for a similar
>> >>> image.  I ended up using EV +1/3 on the E-1 for this image.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.
>> **org/v/OldNick/Improved+**Histogram.jpg.html<
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Improved+Histogram.jpg.html>
>> >>>
>> >>> I now look forward to a sunny day (next week maybe?) to see if I can
>> find
>> >>> what works under those lighting conditions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Nichols
>> >>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> >>>
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