Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/10/19

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Subject: [Leica] Canon 1D X -- the real marker to the end of the mega-pixel wars?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:44:44 -0700
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It's another way to separate a photographer and the money they don't have
:-)

http://www.hartblei.de/en/hartbleicam2.htm


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's an HCam?
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Richard Man
> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>
> > Honestly, this is why the HCam sounds so appealing too if one is
> interested
> > in the shift and tilt. You can do that with a Cambo or Arca, but they are
> > bigger...
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > You don't place the GG on the shimmed back holder. The GG has it's own
> > > holder that fits to the back of the camera just like the DB holder.
> > >
> > > It is not easy to focus properly with the GG holder; I primarily use it
> > for
> > > framing and ensuring my polarizing filter is positioned where I want
> it.
> > >
> > > I have a Leica Distometer to find the closest distance when I'm not
> using
> > > tilt. I did some work to find out what the best f-stop was to use to
> get
> > > the
> > > greatest hyperfocal distance. So at f/11.3 I can get from about 3m to
> > > infinity in focus. If my distometer says the closest object in my frame
> > is
> > > >= 3m, I'm all set. If closer, I can use focus bracketing. This is for
> > the
> > > 35mm.
> > >
> > > Haven't tested the 80mm yet as I tend to use tilt with it (it is the
> > > shortest lens for which tilt is available on the Alpa system). I need
> to
> > do
> > > some testing with it not only to get the right hyperfocal distances at
> > the
> > > best f/stop but also to see how I far I can close down to get more of
> the
> > > Scheimpflug hyperfocal plane in focus.
> > >
> > > This digital MF is a whole new ball of wax for most (with tech cams).
> > Great
> > > results (IMO) once you get it all figured out.
> > >
> > > Probably much more than you ever wanted to know...
> > > Best,
> > > Bob
> > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:00 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
> > > mac.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You are correct of course. The holder for my back, on the Alpa
> > system,
> > > > comes with gaskets that are between .01 and .05mm, in .01mm
> increments.
> > > You
> > > > have to calibrate your back, as in this video:
> > > > > http://www.optechsdigital.com/Videos.html
> > > > > Scroll down to the three videos under Shimming the Alpa.
> > > > >
> > > > > So when I did it to my system, .01mm made all the difference.
> Pretty
> > > > sensitive!
> > > >
> > > > Interesting.
> > > > It's unclear to me where the ground glass comes into play.
> > > > If you've shimmed for the sensor
> > > > and placed the ground glass on that same adapter
> > > > you've also shimmed the ground glass
> > > > (or am I missing something?)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > George Lottermoser
> > > > george at imagist.com
> > > > http://www.imagist.com
> > > > http://www.imagist.com/blog
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Leica Users Group.
> > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bob Adler
> > > Palo Alto, CA
> > > http://www.rgaphoto.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Leica Users Group.
> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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