Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/10/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Tina, You make some valid points, and I can respect them. However, as a "hobby photographer", I enjoy sharing my hobby with friends and family, and see no advantage to myself in complicating my life with additional monetary transactions or tax deductions. As long as I am given free access to areas that may or may not be open to the general public, in order for me to take photos, I will gladly share some of those images in order not to wear out my welcome. At 81, I guess this is one of the few vices that I can embrace. I hope the power is back on, and the snow has subsided. Thanks, Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Can't We Contribute to to Public Service? > No, it wasn't tongue-in-cheek, but it was from a professional viewpoint. > Someone who doesn't make their living by selling their photographs can, of > course, give them away whenever they want. Anyone who places any monetary > value on their photographs, which is necessary if you are going to use > them > as a source of income, is risking placing a value of zero on their work if > they give it away even for a good cause. I've been working with > non-profits for over 30 years and learned that when you give away your > photos to the non-profits, they place a value on your work of exactly what > you charge them. I learned quickly to charge normal prices for my charity > work and, if I want to contribute to the cause, turn around a make a > donation for the amount that I charged. That way your work has a value > and > you can deduct your contribution at tax-time (of course, you add the > income, too, so it evens out). > > So many people offer photographers a credit and say the exposure will be > great for your business. You can't eat exposure. How many plumbers would > fix your sink if you offered to put a credit on the sink saying "repaired > by Joe Plumber"? For some reason everybody thinks photographers should > donate their work, but they never think of asking the architect or > electrician or publisher to work for nothing. > > And, Jayanand, there is a fee structure for digital use, also. So many > people think that if it's on the internet, it's free. It's not. All > photos are copyright protected and cannot be used without permission. > Some > people (non-professionals) give permission freely, professionals charge. > As EXIF, watermarking, and services like TinEye improve, more and more > photographers are following up on miss-use of their photos and charging 3X > the normal fee for illegal use of their photos. If the photo has been > registered with the copyright office, most lawyers are willing to pursue > those cases and almost always win. I'm all for that! > > Sorry for the soapbox, but this is something that really, really > aggravates > me. I work with ASMP for copyright protection and receiving fair value > for > work. > > Tina > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Jim Nichols > <jhnichols at lighttube.net>wrote: > >> Tina, >> >> Your response to Bob Adler strikes me as a little bit strong, unless it >> was offered tongue-in-cheek. >> >> I just contributed a number of images to the Facebook web page created by >> our local airport. I have enjoyed the friends and experiences made at >> this >> facility since I started flight training in 1957, and have seen the >> numerous improvements made over the years, including transition to the >> world of the internet. I think the web page will offer a new face to >> people who may not be familiar with the value of this facility to the >> local >> economy, and I am happy to contribute. I intend to continue to help with >> updated photos. Somehow, from the EXIF data on my digital images, a >> number >> of the images give me credit lines. >> >> In case you would like to see what I am talking about, here is a link to >> the page. >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tullahoma-Regional-Airport/176056799142900 >> >> I don't feel that I gave a lot of value away. I see it as civic pride! >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >