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Subject: [Leica] 1.8 vs. 1.4!?!? :-)
From: topoxforddoc at btinternet.com (Charlie Chan)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:15:13 +0000
References: <CAD73D25.16401%mark@rabinergroup.com> <787A2EE1-7962-46B9-A113-F067253E4CCB@mac.com> <059e01cc9b2b$b6d03860$2470a920$@gmail.com> <FEC479FE44854683A9B14695E452F356@syneticfeba505>

I?m with Dr Ted here. I rarely use my Sekonic 308s. Sunny 16 and a bit of 
experience is all you need if you?re shooting B&W film. (Different story for 
chromes though).

Best wishes,

Charlie Chan
Cheltenham, UK

topoxforddoc at btinternet.com
www.cancer-surgeon.co.uk
www.charlie-chan.co.uk



On 4 Nov 2011, at 23:09, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Piers Hemy OFFERED:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 1.8 vs. 1.4!?!?
> 
> 
>> Doesn't anyone read their Gossen exposure meter manual anymore?<<<<<
> 
> Hello Piers,
> I don't recall reading it other than when the meter came out of the box. 
> After I figured out how to take a meter reading it didn't seem necesary 
> for anything, but press button needle shows f8.0 and be there! Once that 
> was figured out that's all that was necessary. And threw it away!
> 
> But then I began using Leica's and never required any kind of meter after 
> that! :-) And still don't. :-)
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> The Lunalux, Lunalite, Lunasix F, LunaPro F manuals all include the
>> following explanatory text (along with other, much more useful material):
>> 
>> "The [meter]  is calibrated in 1/3 f/stop increments with numerical
>> indications at full stops. A table is included below with the actual
>> numerical values of the 1/3 stop increments listed for levels from f/0.7 
>> to
>> f/128. Values not listed can be calculated from the formula that follows:
>> 
>> New f/stop = (old f/stop) (square root (2) to the power (f/stop change))
>> 
>> For example, if you wish to stop down 1/4 stop from f/4, take the square
>> root which equals 1.414 and raise it to the power .25 which is the decimal
>> equivalent of 1/4 stop."
>> 
>> The table is in the appendix, and reads as follows:
>> 
>> .7     2.8    11     45
>> .8     3.2    13     51
>> .9     3.5    14     57
>> 1       4      16     64
>> 1.1     4.5    18     72
>> 1.3     5      20     81
>> 1.4     5.6    22     90
>> 1.6     6.3    25    101
>> 1.8     7      29    113
>> 2       8      32    128
>> 2.2     9      36
>> 2.5    10      40
>> 
>> To make sense of that table, you will of course need to have a
>> non-proportional font.
>> Doesn't anyone read their emails in plain text anymore?
>> 
>> Piers
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> George Lottermoser
>> Sent: 03 November 2011 18:31
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 1.8 vs. 1.4!?!?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> I looked up f 1.8 vs. 1.4 thinking it was between a half and a quarter
>>> of a stop and they are saying its 2/3rds!?!?! Anybody know that that's
>> true?
>>> 
>>> Where is there a photo calculator that tells you these things?!?!?
>> 
>> I always thought the basic math for 1 f stop revolved around a factor of
>> 1.4.
>> 1.4 x 1.4 = 1.96
>> 1.8 / 1.4 = 1.29
>> 
>> so - yes - 2/3 would seem close enough for. what? I'm not sure.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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