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Subject: [Leica] OT: lens shutters suck - Richard Man
From: j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:49:18 +0100
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Thanks for the tip, Richard. My daughter lives in Savannah, GA, so if you 
happen to know of a place there that's as good as Duggal NYC, well ... Where 
I live (Strasbourg, France) there's a professional lab that's doing a 
wonderful job (they're "film-only" specialists, no camera business, no main 
street shop, but an almost religious devotion to film processing) but prices 
tend to get QUITE expensive these days ... I'm thinking of doing the job 
myself but is it still worth the trouble? Jean-Michel
 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:33:14 -0800
> From: richard at richardmanphoto.com
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: lens shutters suck
> 
> If you go to NYC, I HIGHLY recommend Duggal on 22nd. They processed my
> Tri-X excellently with a dip and dunk machine. Much better than my luck
> with say, well, the famous local camera shop in Palo Alto :-). Of course I
> usually process my own.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz <j2m46 at hotmail.fr> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Tina. When I travel to the US, which I do once in a
> > while, I buy the film I'm using at the local photo dealer's and always 
> > send
> > the unexposed film back home either with a worldwide carrier (UPS, Fedex)
> > or the official postal system, I've never had any problem so far  - they
> > say there's no scan for such items. I've tried - once only - to have my
> > films processed locally to avoid the X-ray exposure but the result was so
> > terrible I've definitely given it up. I guess I must have knocked at the
> > wrong door but my impression is that photo dealers today do not process 
> > the
> > amount of film that would guarantee a fairly good professional result. 
> > The
> > chemistry seemed outdated - due to a lack of business in the field of 
> > film
> > processing? Though this was considered as THE local specialist for the
> > "ancient" way of picture taking - he had vintage Leicas for
> > sale!Jean-Michel> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:01:47 -0500
> > > From: images at comporium.net
> > > To: lug at leica-users.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: lens shutters suck
> > >
> > > Some examples here, too, if you scroll down:
> > >
> > > http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM, <afirkin at afirkin.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Then I started the Kenyan films: I was very excited about these.
> > African
> > > > panoramas. The first one I printed (after processing all 6 rolls and
> > > > contact printing) had strange densities that I had 'tried' to ignore 
> > > > on
> > > > the contact sheet, hoping it was the plastic I used to hold hte film
> > flat
> > > > BUT no. The next shot (almost identical) was also 'scarred'. I
> > immediately
> > > > blamed my processing: did I agitate enough? BUT the more I looked at
> > them
> > > > the less I was convinced. This 35mm film is of course in small metal
> > > > containers, they were 'bunched' together in the handluggage and there
> > is a
> > > > potential weak point where the felt stops light, but not X rays, so
> > this
> > > > could explain why the patterns were somewhat irregular: I really 
> > > > don't
> > > > think my processing would have scarred across the film like this: the
> > 120
> > > > rolls did not have the same pattern, so once again I think the entire
> > > > project was ruined by radiation. Helen asked me if I could 'rescue' 
> > > > any
> > > > and I said "maybe, if I scanned them and 'patched' them up in PS" but
> > in
> > > > the end why have film and digitize it when you can use digital 
> > > > capture
> > in
> > > > the first place.
> > > >
> > > > So if this is true then you cannot carry film when you travel by air,
> > and
> > > > this is my major interest in photography. If I cannot use film on my
> > > > travels I will soon lose any skills I have.
> > > >
> > > > I rang a friend last week before come to the USA and he just said: 
> > > > "you
> > > > should think about getting one of those new digital camera things". I
> > will
> > > > enjoy the darkroom workshop, but there is a sword hanging over the
> > > > darkroom and the thread holding it is very thin!!
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I need to GROW UP ;-)
> > > >
> > > > That became longer than I expected, but kept me awake!!!
> > > >
> > > > Alastair
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tina Manley, ASMP
> > > www.tinamanley.com
> > >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> 
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Replies: Reply from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck - Richard Man)
In reply to: Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck)
Message from afirkin at afirkin.com (afirkin at afirkin.com) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck)
Message from j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] OT: lens shutters suck)