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Subject: [Leica] DNG/Lightroom Question
From: gwpics at me.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:28:10 +0000
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Richard

Please don't be confused - I had forgotten that you can switch between 
profiles in LR. It is an age thing!

Gerry

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On 10 Jan 2012, at 08:26, Richard Man wrote:

> Same with LR, hence I am a bit confused by Gerry's questions :-)
> 
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Chris Crawford <
> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder of us CS5 users will get an update to that 2012 profile? Hope so!
>> In Photoshop you can actually switch back and forth between the profiles.
>> There's a pull-down menu buried deep in the Camera Raw controls that
>> allows you to choose. So, updating to a newer one does not take away the
>> ability to use the old one if you need it for something.
>> 
>> --
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>> On 1/10/12 3:22 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had forgotten that you can upgrade the camera calibration profile in
>>> LR, and I notice in the new LR4 Beta there is now a 2012 profile, which
>>> seems to answer my question. Thanks Chris!
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 08:19, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Don't know about Lightroom, but in Photoshop CS5, the raw converter
>>>> allows
>>>> you to choose between the 2010 profile or the 2003 profile! So you could
>>>> still open stuff with the old profile system in later versions of
>>>> Photoshop.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>> 
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>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
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>>>> 
>>>> On 1/10/12 2:35 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is my point. They upgrade to a new 2010 profile, but if a .dng
>>>>> conversion was done way back then there a similar upgrade to a new .dng
>>>>> version or is it stuck at the old level/values?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
>>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 07:32, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The preset may be different, and may be it's set up to be (for
>>>>>> example)
>>>>>> more contrast to begin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Camera Calibration" would also definitely make a difference. The
>>>>>> latest
>>>>>> "2010" Process probably looks better than the "2003" Process, and the
>>>>>> "Adobe Standard" profile is probably better than the "Embedded"
>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Possibly (hopefully) they are Richard, but I think that Adobe
>>>>>>> improves
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 'translation' of native RAW files as time goes on. Maybe I am wrong,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> someone will put me right on this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
>>>>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 07:08, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You sure it's not just that your skills are better now than in 2006?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am working on older images (2006) in Lightroom, and I am finding
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> they are a lot better than when I worked on them back then. They
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> .raf
>>>>>>>>> files from a Fuji S2, and I think they have been improved as Adobe
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> updated the way it reads the files.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now for the question - if files are converted to .dng files is that
>>>>>>>>> conversion then 'set in stone' or is the conversion updated as
>>>>>>>>> Adobe
>>>>>>>>> improves its translation of the files?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, as I am sure someone here knows the answer.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
>>>>>>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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