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Subject: [Leica] Expertly done colored version of the famous B&S photos
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:56:19 +1030
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Desecrated shrines.

Marty

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:53 AM,  <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Well you can make that +2... they are wrong and prove me right once again..
> So here I go:-)
>
>>>> "When you photograph people in colour; you photograph their clothes. But
>
> when you photograph people in B&W you photograph their souls'!"<<<<
>
> In the picture of the Monk in flames in Saigon in B&W you see him in a
> stronger fashion than in colour. In colour your eyes go right to the flames
> and the bright blue car in bkgrd! Then you start looking for or what maybe
> the human engulfed in flames. It's the content that matters because it's a
> human being first and everything else is after the fact. Colour no matter
> how extremely well done, eliminates the impact of the scene photo after
> photo! Certainly in varying degrees. Or it takes your eyes away from the
> main body of the photo.
>
> The famous photo by Eddie Adams of the VC being shot through the head! Same
> thing.... the power is in the B&W! Why? Because we as humans have been
> watching colour TV, films, magazines and newspapers for so many years right
> there in our family or living rooms. Have or are slowly becoming to some
> degree immune to violent scenes in colour! It seems to have a "Hollywood
> fix" to it and it isn't real.
>
> Look at any of these original photos in B&W, there is a greater intensity
> about the original photo without the colour which "softens the effect" of
> whatever is going on! It's the colours throwing off our reading the 
> content.
> The WW2 KISS photo by Alfred Eisenstaedt. In colour it just looks like a
> Hollywood scene or some kind of newspaper set-up. The colour eliminates the
> historical aspects of the time. For me it takes away the reality of the
> moment.
>
> "WORLD'S HIGHEST STANDARD OF LIVING"
> In B&W it holds the visual effect right there in your face of these
> unfortunate people so strongly, it's a photo you feel the tragic scene and
> situation without question! It feels real looking!
>
> "COLOUR?"
> It completely destroys the downtrodden feeling, the people don't look like
> they are a starving group of folks endangered due to the economic situation
> of those times. Once again colour takes away a feeling of the historical
> effects.
>
> Anyway I bet more of the older crew members who grew up with the incredible
> B&W photography of LIFE, LOOK, DER STERN, PARIS MATCH and others, will have
> a greater feeling for what I'm saying. I have absolutely no fault with the
> incredible talent illustrated by this artist. But it just doesn't do one
> whit of a thing for any of the photos in a reality sense, my 2 cents!
>
> But for sure, this would be one incredible topic for a group discussion
> seated at a round table a beer in hand.:-) Oh yeah and a plate of munchies!
> :-)
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at 
> frozenlight.eu>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Expertly done colored version of the famous B&S photos
>
>
>
>> +1
>>
>> On 19 Jan, 2012, at 21:08 , Tina Manley wrote:
>>
>>> I totally disagree with the blog. ?The colorized photos look like
>>> snapshots. ?The B&W look like history. ?Maybe because I'm an OLD person.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Richard Man
>>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the record, I am "Tri-X all the way," but this is interesting:
>>>>
>>>> http://gizmodo.com/color/
>>>>
>>>> There is another series where the human figures were removed from the
>>>> iconic photos.
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>
>
>
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