Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/31

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Subject: [Leica] Photographic Freedom
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:59:16 -0500

The  privacy thing gets lots of play. Lots of mileage. Over here in the US
its been a leading contender to the heavyweight champ the first amendment
but for some odd reason the first amendment never looses a match. Even the
so called right of privacy hype.
I can of course mainly not speak for England but for the US of A of which
I'm much more familiar despite hours of listening to the BBC and reading the
entire oeuvre of John Le Carr?.  - and Benny Hill.
Tonight I'm going to see Coriolanus.

I'm encouraged by the cell phone users taking pix and movies of every darned
thing as it happens. Keeps the governments in check.
Politicians know people will NOT STAND for having any form of smart phone
use toned down. The hearts and minds of the people lay in their smart
phones. Something goes down. Its on the news in minutes. Democracy in
action. I'm encouraged.

-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:34:52 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom
> 
> I think you are wrong here, Mark. True, many pieces of legislation are
> proposed for the purpose of currying favor with constituents and not for
> their practical or legal value ... the anti-gay stuff coming out of NJ
> right now is a pathetic
> example. For photographers and photographs, however, the invasion of
> privacy card pretty much trumps everything, and it's being selectively
> enforced in lots of places. 70's style street photography was the best form
> of social criticism and insight we've ever had, but this is out of favor
> now. Even on this list, I'm sure that most of the members find the 70's
> idea intrusive and opprobrious.
>   I add, by way of contradiction, that I don't mind being asked for id by
> city police. They are in a tough position and I know a number of them
> personally.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The purpose of such draconian proposals is not to get them passed. But to
>> impress  a politicians constituents. Nobody really thinkgs the thing will
>> pass or stay in place as a law very long.
>> It gets votes and incurs favor to make sweeping hateful statements.
>> For a decade now the easy ones to pick on are the photographers. We are 
>> the
>> new monsters. Not Dracula, Frankenstein.
>> 
>> --
>> Mark R.
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Bob Shaw <rsphotoimages at comcast.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:04:18 -0800
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>, Nikon
>> D1scussion
>>> List <d1scussion at list.d1scussion.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom
>>> 
>>> Proclamation!
>> 
>> Hopefully
>> 
>> 
>> 
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