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Subject: [Leica] Off Topic--Stella Awards
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:35:01 -0600
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Bob, I, too, have lost pilot friends to accidents, and, in many cases, the 
real answer is never known.  Much as we hate to admit it, it often comes 
down to poor choices on the part of the pilot.  And I have been close enough 
to realize how easy it can be to get "suckered" into making such choices.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Off Topic--Stella Awards


> Jim, there probably was a better answer; I'm recounting from what I
> remember from over 30 years ago.
>
> --Bob
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> As a pilot, I can't let this go unchallenged.  An autopilot senses
>> airspeed, etc, with respect to the RELATIVE wind.  A headwind would cost
>> the pilot speed over the ground, or groundspeed, but would not affect the
>> ability of the airplane and autopilot to maintain flight.  He would not
>> settle to the ground except in two ways:  1) He encountered rising 
>> terrain.
>>  Or, 2) He ran out of fuel.
>>
>> There has to be a better answer.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Baron" 
>> <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Off Topic--Stella Awards
>>
>>
>>  ==On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  I live in Oklahoma and have heard the Winnebago version, in various
>>>>>
>>>> incarnations, for probably 30 years now.  There is also one about a
>>>> doctor
>>>> who put his airplane on autopilot and went back to take a nap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  There actually was a lawyer in Oklahoma City who would set the alarm 
>>>> on
>>> his
>>> wrist watch, set the autopilot and doze off for a while.
>>>
>>> When he finally had his fatal crash the assumption was he was asleep 
>>> while
>>> he ran into a headwind and the airplane slowly lost speed and settled 
>>> into
>>> the ground.
>>>
>>> This is a true story and, speaking as a lawyer who knew him, I'll say it
>>> was just more proof that you can't always fool Mother Nature.
>>>
>>> --Bob
>>>
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