[Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing

[richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)]

I have read that a master printer like Voja Mitrovic, "..world renowned
master printer who has been a long time printer for Henri Cartier-Bresson,
Josef Koudelka, Rene Burri, Peter Turnley, and many others" can spot how
best to print a negative visually and in a short time, so they don't spend
hours trying to get a master print - well, at least good enough for us
mortals anyway. I also read that Gene Smith would often go into a darkroom
with a pack of printing paper and a bottle of something and 2 days later,
came out with a single print...

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> wrote:

> So? I like achieving similar results for a particular print and so I do
> note my dodging and burning on my final test prints. I would go crazy if I
> didn't?Specially when doing limited edition prints and don't do the whole
> batch at the same time. And IF I change papers, I usually start with the
> results I noted and go from there. If I want to achieve a different
> interpretation, I also start from that particular annotated print and try
> new stuff? It's not perfect, but sure is better than re-inventing the wheel
> every time. And ymmv?
>
> And as to time spent in the darkroom? 35 years here. But I must be a bit
> younger? ;)
>
> All the best from Paris!
>
> Tarek
>
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> Tarek Charara
> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 09:43, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>
> > Its just that I've over 4 decades printed and half my friends did the
> same.
> > As in printed the same neg on different papers different times. Different
> > sizes for different shows or clients. RC and or Fiber. C print or
> > Cibachrome.  And had our assistants do It and or a custom printer do it.
> > Its scintillating horsepucky.
> >
> > --
> > Mark R.
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> >
> >
> >> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:12:33 +0100
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
> >>
> >> You'd have to make those note at some final stage so that you don't
> start the
> >> whole trial and error process all over again. years later when you need
> to
> >> print again.
> >>
> >> All the best from Paris!
> >>
> >> Tarek
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> Tarek Charara
> >> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
> >>
> >> NO ARCHIVE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 06:06, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
> >>
> >>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive
> compulsive
> >>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head
> from
> >>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension.
> >>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's.
> >>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think
> that
> >>> even though you  yourself are not making the prints the relation
> between you
> >>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the
> >>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print.
> >>>
> >>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the
> darkroom
> >>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be
> reminded of
> >>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up
> thing like
> >>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a
> >>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You
> have
> >>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra.
> >>> --
> >>> Mark R.
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> >>
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