Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/15

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Subject: [Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:04:30 -0400

One could rent a top of the line Canon or Nikon DSLR for a week and see what
all the photographers 99.99% of them who are all using them are talking
about and how after a few sessions of being able to use iso iso 64,000 and
several stops higher they get used to it and not want to go back to shooting
a psaltery 1600 any more which as I under stand it the M9 has trouble with.
My camera a D700 is set so it does not go below 400 or 500 most the time.
I understand this is the high limit for many of use shooting M9's.
If that's the case than all I can say is the time will come sooner than
later when they will put a better sensor in the M9 and Leica users will be
able to shoot like Canon and Nikon users. Maybe they'll call it a M9.1.
And when that happens there will be a nice run off of Canon and Nikon
shooters who will put down their DSLR's and pick up a Leica again or for the
first time.
You need it for shooting at night not where the lights area aiming.
But where they are not. Hand held. Stopped down.
For capturing fast action at night.
It gets dark. People don't slow down.
They run down dark sidewalks. The other photographers can easily get it. You
can't. Not good.

-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:01:18 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W Leica? Higher ISO
> 
> A Noctilux at F1 at 1/500 second  = Nikon F5.6 (wide open zoom lens) lens 
> @1/15
> Second.  Take that down as much as you want, and it gets worse...
> Hand holding at slow shutter speeds is HARD.  HARD and average amateur 
> Nikon
> users, in the same sentence is stupid.
> 
> That is why Nikon needs high ISO performance.....slow lenses.....
> 
> OTOH, not too many people have $11K to spend on a lens..... F1.4 is more
> like it, and then the equation gives F1.4 @ 1/250 second... not so bad....
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
> 
> I can't imagine needing the super ISOs on some of the newest digital 
> cameras
> - like 24,000.  What is that for?  The black cat in the coal mine?
>  But then maybe those other cameras don't have a lens that draws in the
> light, like the Noctilux ;-)   Who needs 24,000 when you have 1.0!!
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> 
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