Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Or stay for a week until they forget you are there. Tina On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > If you really want to not change anything in a situation you go into try > going into it with a 16mm Bolex. I'm sure a modern video camera will give > you about those results. Everyone will be acting completely normally. > They're be pretending to not be being hyperaware of the camera and > themselves. With a still camera its about half that. Trust me and I don't > care who you are. You walk into a situation with a camera and that > situation > ceases to be "normal" at that moment. Every one is very aware of themselves > and put on the normal act. Though some will do the opposite and "act out". > Put on a real show. > There really isn't any point in thinking that you are an inert ingredient > to > the situation and that you are not changing and interacting with the > situation. You just are anyway. Its best to recognize it and talk with > people. > The way to get around it is to have a camera built into a suitcase or into > your eyeglasses earpieces or hat. That's the only way your going to get a > non affected reality. There's a surveillance section in the B&H catalog and > I'm sure on their internet site. I'm not sure how successful those kinds of > images are. I think its best to recognize that you are very much part of > any > scene you are photographing. And interact all you feel like. > > HCB had the guy jump over the puddle more than a dozen times. I'm not away > of anyone having a problem with that. > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Jefffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 14:12:11 -0500 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one? >> >> The one thing that I try to change in a subject is to tell them to "stop >> smiling for the camera". >> >> Regards, >> >> Jeffery >> ______________________ >> Jeffery Smith >> New Orleans, LA >> www.400tx.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Tina Manley wrote: >> >>> I am very interested in that book and have ordered it. ?The >>> documentary tradition that I learned and have tried to apply is that >>> you change absolutely nothing for a photo. ?I never move anything, >>> never pose people, never even suggest that they do something over >>> again. ?If I'm lucky enough to get the photo the first time, fine. ?If >>> not, a reenactment does not qualify as documentary photography. ?The >>> reason I stay several days is so that people will forget that I'm >>> taking photographs and just go on about their lives. Sitting quietly >>> in a corner with an M camera and a Noctilux, I can be very boring and >>> unnoticeable. ?That's an advantage taking the photos but not promoting >>> them ;-) >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Phil Swango <pswango at att.net> wrote: >>>> Ted Grant wrote: >>>>> My job was to cover the event! Not make a journalistic statement or >>>>> political >>>> justification one way or the other! >>>> >>>> >>>> I agree that that's the ideal posture from a news perspective, but I >>>> wonder >>>> how easy it is to keep your emotions and your seeing separate. ?Here's a >>>> book that explores the question. I haven't read it yet but Errol Morris >>>> is >>>> a respected documentary filmmaker so I expect he's thought quite a bit >>>> about this. >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Believing-Seeing-Observations-Mysteries-Photography/dp >>>> /1594203016/ref=pd_sim_b_4 >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Phil Swango >>>> 307 Aliso Dr SE >>>> Albuquerque, NM 87108 >>>> 505-262-4085 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Manley, ASMP >>> www.tinamanley.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com