Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/16

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Subject: [Leica] Fuji Xpro vs Olympus OMD
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:29:42 -0500
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If the camera has a banding problem with only one lens, wouldn't it be a 
problem with the in-camera lens correction?

-----Original Message----- 
From: James Laird
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:28 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji Xpro vs Olympus OMD

Henning,

What about this banding problem the OM-D has at high ISOs with the
Panasonic 20mm 1.7?
<http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/12/Olympus-acknowledges-OM-D-E-M5-banding-with-panasonic-20mm-f1-7-lens>
Of course I realize with the speed of the 20 you would rarely need to
use high ISO settings. Have you experienced it? It would be a definite
problem for me as I love my 20 1.7.

Jim Laird

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> 
wrote:
> I just got an OM-D. I've not had it long, but it looks good. In any case, 
> I've handled but am not interested in the Fuji, because I have an M9 and 
> focussing and shooting with the M9 is a lot easier and pleasanter for me. 
> Of course, if I had a Fuji I'm sure I'd start to get used to it but I 
> can't say I'm delighted with the viewfinder/focussing setup. Also, the 
> range of lenses available is not really going to make me happy at this 
> point. I know that many more are supposed to come, but.....
>
> I've had m43 for a while, and the OM-D definitely has the best image 
> quality. Is it up to the Fuji? Not quite. Is the Fuji's quality up to FF, 
> as they advertised? Not quite. It's still a matter of size, and FF trumps 
> APS-C trumps m43. What is amazing about the OM-D is the dynamic range 
> which is greater than that of almost all APS-C cameras, and the fact that 
> the files are more forgiving than those of the Panasonics and earlier 
> Olympuses. With the OM-D, I also have as backups the Panasonics.
>
> As for high ISO quality, the Fuji has about a stop on the OM-D, but then I 
> have faster lenses for the OM-D than Fuji has available at present for the 
> most and the OM-D has first class stabilization. For my purposes the OM-D 
> wins in the low light area, and especially with the lenses I have vs. 
> those I could get for the Fuji. Lens quality for the m43 format is at 
> least up to the level of the Fuji's, which are certainly very good.
>
> As for colour accuracy, Olympus has been at the very pinnacle of colour 
> accuracy for a long time, with their larger 4/3 cameras as well as their 
> m43 offerings. In any case, I profile all my cameras so it becomes a 
> non-issue. Processing for the web by various people is definitely an 
> issue, and making comparisons on the web for colour is not going to 
> actually get you anywhere. Do your own tests. Or profile everything; 
> that's the only answer in the end.
>
> Bokeh is of course rather subjective, but that quality is in fact rather 
> similar between the Fuji lenses and the majority of the m43 prime lenses I 
> have (or tried). It seems a lot of companies are now paying attention to 
> this.
>
> Resolution/detail differences can be seen on the web at 100% if things are 
> processed optimally. The Fuji should have a slight advantage here, nearly 
> to the extent of the difference of a 13x19 print compared with an 11x17 
> print. I haven't made this comparison, nor am I likely to, but to this 
> point some 13x19 OM-D prints I've seen look fine. I'm unlikely to print 
> larger than 11x14 myself, so I would have a little room for cropping. If I 
> really intend to print larger, I'll use a larger sensor or stitch
>
> Summarized, my opinion is this: If you don't have m43 or an M9 and would 
> like something 'M-like', have a look at the Fuji and see if you can get 
> along with it. It's no M9, both in a good and bad sense, just different 
> enough so that it really should be judged on its own.
>
> If you have any m43 items or would like immediate access to a fairly well 
> developed system, don't hesitate about the OM-D. The issues you raised 
> aren't real issues; only with respect to resolution can Fuji be said to 
> have an advantage, and it's not really that big a one. Handling, features, 
> size, price, how it fits in with your other cameras and a lot of other 
> things are a log bigger factors.
>
> Finally, get the one you like! and go our and shoot!
>
> Henning
>
>
> On 2012-06-16, at 4:35 AM, Douglas Nygren wrote:
>
>> I've been studying the picture posted on the web and the lug taken with 
>> the Fuji Xpro and comparing them with others taken with the new Olympus 
>> OMD.
>> The Fuji looks better. The colors look better, the bokeh looks better, 
>> the images are sharper.
>> What have you all noted, if you have compared the two?
>> Gru?--Doug
>>
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> Henning Wulff
> henningw at archiphoto.com
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