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Subject: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:05:11 -0500 (CDT)
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Jim,

Do you take a mulligan when your tee shot goes into the woods?  Does it 
matter?

Robert

On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:28 PM, James Laird wrote:

> Really. It matters? Really? For historical reasons maybe, but it's
> still a great photograph which is the only reason anyone cares.
> Really?
> 
> Jim Laird
> 
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> 
> wrote:
>> Was anyone worried about what camera was used for the Iwo Jima shot?   
>> Does anyone have any doubts about what camera HCB used?  No, and no.
>> 
>> Did Doisneau stage the kiss shot?   Yes.   Did HCB shoot the puddle 
>> jumper over and over again until he got it right?   We don't know.   But 
>> it damn well matters!
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:24 PM, James Laird wrote:
>> 
>>> Really? We are worried about whether or not the 'Iwo Jima' shot or the
>>> HCB 'Puddle Jumper' shot was staged? Really? Are we worried that maybe
>>> the eyelashes on the guy in the puddle jumper shot might be sharper if
>>> we shot them with a Nikon D800 vs D800E? Really? Doesn't this seem a
>>> bit ridiculous to all of you? Maybe a bit anal?
>>> WHO CARES? They are great photographs. Who cares if they were shot
>>> with an M4 and a 50mm Collapsible Summicron or an 800E with a Nikkor
>>> 50 1.4? It's STILL a great photograph, isn't it? I've seen great
>>> photographs taken with 3.2 MP Minolta cameras that most of us would
>>> consider pieces of crap, but the photo...a work of art. Beautiful by
>>> anyone's standards.
>>> I think we all need to take a deep breath, slow down, and realize once
>>> and for all that the photograph is what counts. NOT the camera or the
>>> lens or the film or the memory card or CS5 or LR4 or whatever we used
>>> to get it. A great photograph stands on its own merit. And we all know
>>> that the minute we see it. That's what keeps us shooting. We all think
>>> that someday we might be skilled enough or (in the end) lucky enough
>>> to be in the right place at the right time with a camera to take a
>>> photograph that is eternal. Like HCB. He took thousands of
>>> photographs, many of which were probably NOT keepers. But he kept on
>>> shooting because he was rich enough or lucky enough to be able to do
>>> nothing but take photographs, to do the thing that we all love so
>>> much. God, he makes me so jealous sometimes. We all probably wish we
>>> could have the chance to do what he did.
>>> But most of us can't so we think if we buy X lens and Y camera with Z
>>> processor/computer that maybe we can do what he did, oh god if we only
>>> could. Really?
>>> 
>>> Just my humble opinion ;)
>>> 
>>> Jim Laird
>>> 
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Replies: Reply from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)
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