Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I really was hoping that the look would be on par. May be digital negatives would produce better output than the Durst Theta, but I sort of doubt it now. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM, John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>wrote: > Well it has been 15 years since I have had a new silver gelatin print :-( > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > I meant the death..for me, obviously not for the billion other people still > printing in the dark room. > On Jun 19, 2012 11:13 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > The real point being the process has not died just becuae somebody > prefers > > it over another and its tasteless to have it be a thread name. I feel > like > > I'm an idiot contributing to it. > > > > - - from my iRabs. > > Mark Rabiner > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > > > > > > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:07:17 -0400 > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] The death of the silver gelatin prints > > > > > > I was an Ilford Multigrade fan not the warm or the cool and I'd use the > > RC > > > for my proof sheets and an occasional work print. I think its possible > > they > > > still make the stuff. I saw a bunch of it at B&H not that many months > > ago. > > > Somebody bought Ilford but the typeface is the same. > > > > > > - - from my iRabs. > > > Mark Rabiner > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > > > > > > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> > > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:01:50 +1200 > > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] The death of the silver gelatin prints > > >> > > >> To me there is nothing like the range of papers out there compared to > a > > few > > >> years back. I preferred Oriental Seagull over Galerie gloss (I liked > the > > >> matt), no Agfa warm tone (or cold for that matter) etc etc. > > >> > > >> john > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> > > >> I missed the part on how the silver gelatin prints died. > > >> > > >> - - from my iRabs. > > >> Mark Rabiner > > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> > > >> > > >>> Oh, and the gloss is less "annoying." The Z has a gloss optimizer > > >>> which really helps here, I think. > > >>> > > >>> Although I have to say, there is something about that pure black in > > >>> the silver print that has a lot of appeal. Just slightly more > > >>> appealing in that case... > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Richard Man > > >>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Quite a bit sharper (this is from the same file of course), better > > >>>> noise in the shadow and generally more contrast (macro and micro ?) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Just curious, better how? More gloss, blacker blacks? > > >>>>> etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Montie > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Overblown sensational title? Surely you jest? :-) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes, a tad. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes, I went for the premium option, even with Selenium toning (50% > > >>>>> more $). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It's quite superb, just that Z+ Gloss Baryta is better. I was > hoping > > >>>>> they would be equal. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> It's a Durst Theta 51. Was your image uploaded via Roes for their > > >>>>>> value RC print? Not Great. Try their custom printing on Ilfobrom > > >>>>>> Galerie Fiber (Baryta based) Semi Gloss...Superb, assuming the > file > > >>>>>> is good in the first place. 300 dpi or better etc. Your subject > > >>>>>> title may be a tad overblown? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Montie > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Folks might remember that I tried doing digital negative before. > > >>>>>>>> In > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>> end, unsuccessfully because my HP Z3100 is just not good for that > > >>>>>> particular type of task (digital negative for silver contact > prints > > >>>>>> - apparently, it works great for digital negatives with > alternative > > >>>>> process). > > >>>>>> Eventually when I have to replace the Z3100, I will probably get > an > > >>>>> Epson > > >>>>>> and try the experiment again. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Meanwhile, since I have to make some 17x22 prints for a couple > > >>>>>> gallery shows, I got a 8x10 sample print from Digital Silver where > > >>>>>> you upload > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>> digital file and they print it using some sort of LED laser and > > >>>>>> then processed in wet chemical. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I make the same print on the Z. Comparing to the Z3100 printing on > > >>>>>> Gloss Baryta, it's no comparison, the inkjet print looks better in > > >> every way. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So Z+Gloss Baryta it is. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > >>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>