Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I repeat, these are people who have bought the lens and some of them sold it on john ________________________________________ The pro's are mostly in a mindset where if it's not a monster 2.8 zoom the size of a one pound coffee can its not seemly for them to use them. Me I'm ok with a measly f4 lens in a pinch. In the old days I shot cropped with a 12-24 f4 lens and felt like many others it was up to pro standards. And I did use it professionally. It seems that few lenses other than the 2.8s had the same level of sealing. I've found I just have to live with that. Arf! - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > I pay more attention to some pro users on getdpi.com personally. > > john > ________________________________________ > > We did have this discussion here recently and Rockwell's not the only one > who thinks they got it right for sure on the G version. > The G stands for goodness. > I real Rockwell as it tends to be on top of a search and I like the clear > way he lays stuff out. But I never read just him I get a second opinion. > Which is sometimes my own common sense and experience. > > Here's an in depth impressive review at the top of a quick search: > http://mansurovs.com/nikon-24-120mm-vr-review > Guys name is Nasim Mansurov. > Seldom have a seen such and intensive review with intensive feedback > anywhere on anything. > And as I'd not have to survive an Lithuanian winter with it I think its for > me. As I'm going to be in much better physical shape in the months ahead. > Next time you see me expect to see forearms like Popeye the sailor. > > He says he gets sharp pix a 24mm at a half a second. > What if he's right?!? Or even half right? (a quarter of a second) > > > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:04:56 +1200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >> Barcelona >> News - MARK & DANIEL >> >> I am going by a group of people who all own a copy rather than a single >> example (or Rockwell, who takes him seriously?). Saying it is variable >> quality (seems the same for a lot of Canikon lenses) is not the same as >> saying it is bad, many people testing 3 or so examples before finding a >> copy >> they want..... There are people on this list who have bought it and not >> found it good enough. >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Rockwell says: >> The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than >> its >> predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these >> 24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their >> predecessor, >> the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are >> loaded with distortion. >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-120mm.htm >> >> So lets not put all our 24-120's in the same pot. >> The VR is supposed to work great. >>> >>> Really? The f3.5-5.6 VR was what I had and didn't change from >>> 2003-2010. The current f4.0 also has variable quality from what I have >> read........ >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Every year that lens was re designed. Its real hard to know you're >>> shooting with the same 24 to 120. Right now the version out is >>> supposed to be quite good and I'd love to be shooting with it. Its just a >> tad big and heavy. >>> >>> - - from my iRabs. >>> Mark Rabiner >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>>> >>>> Amazing, I had that lens in D100/300 and nothing like that came out, >>>> lens variation on improving on FF? >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> Mark : mine is the cheapest lens you can get 24-120 first version 3.5 >>>> shot fully open - it is the lens no-one wants to buy from Ebay - >>>> available for less than $100 :-) >>>> >>>> Now, I would like to get a copy of the snap SHE took of me - or is it >>>> us? >>>> unsure though as she had a 50mm on. >>>> >>>> I may have shot with one hand - don't remember, as I was lugging my >>>> suitcase along - Daniel might remember this, it all went too quickly. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> Le 8 juil. 12 ? 09:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> Was this shot with the 24 1.4 Nikkor? >>>>> Sure is sharp as a sun of a gun. And at a 30th. >>>>> But looks stopped down one or two. >>>>> >>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:58:46 -0500 >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>>> >>>>>> On my screen, there appears to be a tab at approx the 11 o'clock >>>>>> position in your photo. She is apparently holding on to the >>>>>> focusing tab, so I would suspect that the filter is a polarizer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:12 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your support Daniel, I hope you had a nice return trip >>>>>>> back home. >>>>>>> I was really happy to meet you and will remember last couple of >>>>>>> beers on the square as a privilged moment in my life :-) To be >>>>>>> renewed where and when we can. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark, have a look here, click large. >>>>>>> I DK about the filter, sorry, we didn't even talk to her apart >>>>>>> from asking permission... could be qualified as a missed >>>>>>> opportunity >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/LUG+in+Barcelona/La+Boqu >>>>>>> e >>>>>>> r >>>>>>> ia-M9-Sen >>>>>>> iorita-Sushi-8874.jpg.html >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4bwvgj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amiti?s >>>>>>> Philippe, editing today's celebrations snaps >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 20:48, Daniel Ridings a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was an M9. Pity she covered up the model number. I too saw the >>>>>>>> filter. Don't really know what it was. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rabiner >>>>>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Are you sure it wasn't an M8 I thought I saw a dark grey flat >>>>>>>>> filter on the lens? Maybe it was a polarizer? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>>>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>>>>>> in Barcelona News - STEVE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> no need to ask my friend, they're part of the global emotional >>>>>>>>>> assets of the LUG community :-) Just if you could rename the >>>>>>>>>> first one as: "The other room 31", details will surface in the >>>>>>>>>> course of time... and the story told again and again over the >>>>>>>>>> years ;-) I think you know the guys' >>>>>>>>>> names :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Other than that, the lady was obviously an M9 user, we actually >>>>>>>>>> caught her in the act of shooting, but will remain unknown >>>>>>>>>> forever, unless ... >>>>>>>>>> I had asked her permission though, with Daniel as a witness. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wish you'd been able to make it too, really. >>>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amiti?s de Metz >>>>>>>>>> Philippe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 16:51, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pictures, Philippe, they are packed with life >>>>>>>>>>>> and wit, and one can easily listen to the laughter! I think >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll make it to Barcelona next time, this place is a must for >>>>>>>>>>>> Luggers! >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean- >>>>>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:12:59 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>> From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr >>>>>>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org; leicareflex at freelists.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>>>>>>>> in Barcelona News >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back from Barcelona tonight, where Ted, Lluis, Geoff & >>>>>>>>>>>> lovely family, Daniel and Nathan still are, and I have >>>>>>>>>>>> selected three takes from today that may give you an idea of >>>>>>>>>>>> the marvellous atmosphere there. This gathering was pure >>>>>>>>>>>> magic for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> Special >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Brian without whom this would never have happened. >>>>>>>>>>>> No stacks from me though be patient they will follow from >>>>>>>>>>>> "the crew", but you may nonetheless enjoy these in the meantime. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My first encounter with Doctor Ted, magic! >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cleubbr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ted as a Christmas Tree >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7asd66o >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And Daniel and I had been very lucky earlier this morning >>>>>>>>>>>> when we encountered the best of both worlds on the market. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ct3xpeb >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Xtra special thanks to the crew too. >>>>>>>>>>>> Renewed hugs to "the Hoppies". >>>>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz >>>>>>>>>>>> Philippe, a little knackered after a short night and finding >>>>>>>>>>>> his car wouldn't start at the airport tonight, but German >>>>>>>>>>>> tows work wonders ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would love to use these wonderful images Philippe, in our >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Gallery, if I may...please... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>