Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sounds like something out of "1984"! (-: Cheers Jayanand On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote: > So having our rights denied is being done for our own good? > > I feel much better now. > > ric > > > On Aug 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Phil Forrest wrote: > > > This will continue because there has been no case that has appealed to > > a higher court and no court that is willing to try a case that deals > > with rights we already have specifically enumerated in both state and > > US Constitutions. > >> From a law enforcement point of view, this is an obstruction of justice > > matter. From a press point of view it is a First Amendment matter. > > As long as we have a robust justice system that respects the First > > Amendment we are protected. We are NOT specifically protected from > > harassment by law enforcement if the issue is a law enforcement one. > > If cases like these were to go to a higher court there is the risk of > > our rights being further restricted so as long as we have a right to > > appeal the obstruction of justice charges and get them dropped (and > > every one has been dropped in the city of New York) our system is > > working. The only thing that might help would be more training for law > > enforcement officers. > >> From my point of view, as someone who has worked in law enforcement > > with the Navy, I completely understand the position of LEOs who are > > wanting to remove all variables from a tense, possibly violent and > > dangerous situation. Sometimes the press doesn't need closer access to > > some scenes due to danger and the dynamic environment. A journalist is > > also a person that the LEOs must protect in such situations so the > > further complication detracts from them doing their job. > > These are always cases with lots of nuance and the press is usually > > very quick to point fingers at law enforcement but the law enforcement > > point of view in-situ is never known but should be considered before > > the LEO is condemned. > > > > Phil Forrest > > > > > > > > On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:51:53 -0400 > > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/nyregion/robert-stolarik-times-photographe > >> > r-is-arrested-while-on-assignment-in-the-bronx.html?_r=1&nl=nyregion&emc=edi > >> t_ur_20120806 or > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/d3mkqbz > >> > >> > >> Not good news. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mark William Rabiner > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > -- > > http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >