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Subject: [Leica] OT - those thinking of a 36MP camera.....
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert G Adler)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:41:30 -0700
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Thanks Jayanand. Nothing beats hands on experience!
Best,
Bob

Bob Adler

On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> I have separate SSD drives both for the operating system and for the CS
> Scratch Disk. Highly recommended for a fast boot time, as well as dealing
> with large files.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Somewhat on topic, has anyone tried an SSD drive as a scratch drive for CS
>> to improve performance?
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> True, but I have not heard of any complaints with a compressed 18MP M9
>>> image
>>> 
>>> john
>>> ________________________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Every io cycle on a compressed file has to go through another layer of
>>> software to handle the decompression.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:07 AM, John McMaster <john at 
>>> chiaroscuro.co.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Might be the compression (14 bit) then, this is in LR4.1, may try some
>>>> uncompressed.....
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>> I have no problem on my Win7 machine with 16 GB RAM with uncompressed
>> 14
>>> bit
>>>> D800E files (75-80MB).
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You've got your RAM maxed out, then. I wonder why D800 files are so
>>>>> cumbersome when you find that 500mb Hasselblad scans aren't? That's
>>> weird.
>>>>> I haven't got a D800 to try it with, but my Canon 5DmkII files process
>>>>> fast enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/12/12 3:51 AM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have dealt with 500MB 'blad scans with no issue. For those who care
>>>>>> I have 32GB RAM, SSD and RAIDed eSATA so no slouch, D800E files are
>>>>>> much slower to process....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do you find them in the Windows space Jayanand?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a Mac Pro with dual quad-core processors. Mine are 2.8ghz. I
>>>>>> work with scanned film, which gives much larger files than a 36mp
>>>>>> camera. 16bit RGB scan of a 35mm neg is 128mb and a 6x6 neg is 470mb.
>>>>>> That's with no editing or layers, which make the files a lot bigger.
>> My
>>>> machine is FAST.
>>>>>> I have not looked at it to see the % of CPU being used, but I know it
>>>>>> runs filters and stuff extremely fast. Almost instantly on 35mm and
>>>>>> in a few seconds on the giant medium format scans.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My processors are not that much faster than yours, but I do have 12GB
>>>>>> of RAM. I wonder if more RAM would help you, it did speed mine up
>>>>>> quite a bit when I upped it from 4 to 12 GB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/12/12 3:04 AM, "John McMaster" <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is far slower to work on D800E (lossless compressed) 40MB files
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> M9
>>>>>>> (uncompressed) 36MB files.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a reasonably grunty machine so I went looking at what the
>>>>>>> bottleneck is......
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mid-2009 Mac Pro (2x 2.26 quad-core Intel 5520 CPU) was running at
>>>>>>> over 1300% CPU (16 threads available) briefly while doing minor
>>>>>>> changes, be aware of this limitation if thinking of upping your
>>>>>>> camera MP ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bob Adler
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>> 
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