Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/27

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Subject: [Leica] SHOOTING B&W?
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:36:26 -0400
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I'll just take issue with the term "sensual" as it's being used here. If we
take the somewhat Platonic idea that there exists an invisible, unknowable
reality out there someplace that we can only know about through our senses,
then it seems to me that lines, shapes and modeling are more fundamental
than color; color is a pure abstraction without them. I can recognize the
figure of a man through his outline, but show me his color without the form
and I'm lost. Color blind people do surprisingly well in life, but those
unfortunates who cannot recognize form are simply mad. Color is an
attribute of the world of specific experience and less general than black
and white which is more closely aligned to the world of thought.

So .... I agree with Ted, but I prefer the term "ideational," (ie it's more
like conceiving than experiencing) rather than "intellectual" because the
kind of intellectualizing ruminations we do upon seeing any photograph
figure in after going through the decoding process of identifying stuff and
thinking about it. Intellectuals produce books like "Camera Lucida,"
photographers produce "The Pencil of Nature."


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