Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/31

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Subject: [Leica] Monochrome II and III
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:37:19 +0200
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Le 31 ao?t 12 ? 12:27, FRANK DERNIE a ?crit :

> Hi Henning,
> I can't help feeling that all of the performance enhancements you  
> would like will (much?) need more battery capacity since they all  
> look like shortcomings due to trying to keep the battery as small as  
> possible, which would inevitably lead to the camera having to be  
> bigger and heavier. The M9 body volume is a tiny fraction of the  
> volume of any digital camera of anything like comparable  
> performance...
> Frank
>

I doubt the battery is the reason why - think mirror box or taking  
heavy telezooms etc. not battery - the R8/9 were also bulky and  
battery size was irrelevant, yet they were handy BTW

Ph




>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 0:28
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrome II and III
>>
>> Mainly, and desparately needed: - these are the issues that are in  
>> fact holding me off ordering an MM immediately -
>> Better buffer and image writing to card; faster display with zoom  
>> on LCD; better LCD so that you can judge your image better, should  
>> you choose to do so. Basically the electronics need to be up to the  
>> rest of the camera. If it can't do more than 2 frames per second,  
>> that's OK. What I don't like is having to wait for the camera.  
>> Ever. I don't with any other camera I now use, unless it's a P&S. I  
>> don't know if the production firmware allows for compressed DNG's,  
>> but uncompressed DNG's on the M9 are largely a waste of time and  
>> space as I have never been able to discern a difference in final  
>> output between uncompressed and compressed. If the electronics are  
>> up to dealing with the large files in a transparently speedy  
>> fashion, this becomes somewhat less of an issue. The file writing  
>> of the M9 with compressed is slow enough as it is; it doesn't need  
>> to be slowed additionally by not allowing a compressed format.  
>> Maybe there is a difference other than
> theoretical between compressed a
>> nd uncompressed on the MM, if it is available there or tested  
>> initially by Leica.
>>
>> In the 'Not so important but I'd like...' category:I'd also like  
>> the camera to get back to the size the pre-M8's were. I know that  
>> is difficult with the LCD screen requirements but I could better  
>> live with a deeper mount flange than the body thickness. Better  
>> battery and battery life. I'd prefer not having to remove the base  
>> and finding a place to put it to change batteries and cards. I also  
>> liked the minimal info display on the top panel of the M8; even a  
>> bit more would be welcome.
>>
>> Henning
>>
>>
>> On 2012-08-30, at 12:36 PM, John McMaster wrote:
>>
>>> What do you think needs improved for the II and III?
>>>
>>> ;-)  john
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> I can hardly wait until the Monochrome II and then III are released.
>>> The improvements will be greatly welcome.
>>>
>>> Maybe we'll see a Fuji Monochrome in the near future, or an  
>>> Olympus OMD-B&W. Digital altnernatives busting out all over.
>>>
>>> Cheers--Doug
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Henning Wulff
>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>>
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from douglasnygren at yahoo.com (Douglas Nygren) ([Leica] Monochrome II and III)
Message from john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] Monochrome II and III)
Message from henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] Monochrome II and III)
Message from frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE) ([Leica] Monochrome II and III)