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Subject: [Leica] Leica MM and M9 Comparison
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 00:41:58 +0200
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Tina,

Thanks for your response, one of the things I've thought is what a B&W  
shots could be shoot Tina in Guatemala or Honduras in the dark houses,  
with the women cooking... , yes, I understand you and I think you will  
do a great use of it, your words about the dark houses in Central  
America was sound really attractive for me and wake up my  
imagination.. Italy? WOW! is a wonderful country for shooting B&W... I  
can't wait your next pictures.

Saludos
Lluis




El 03/09/2012, a las 0:33, Tina Manley escribi?:

> Hi, Lluis -
>
> I understand what you are saying.  The differences are there but are  
> slight
> - except at the higher ISOs where the MM really makes a difference.
>
> The main difference to me is mental.  I know I am carrying a color  
> and a
> B&W camera and use each one differently.  It would have been much  
> cheaper
> to use 2 M8s - a chrome and a black one - and designate one as my  
> color
> camera and one as my B&W camera and just not look at the LCD!!
>
> I wish I could go back to those dark houses in Central America with  
> the MM
> instead of my film cameras!  I don't know that I will be  
> photographing that
> much in low-light situations, but it will be interesting to see how  
> much I
> depend on the MM and how much I use the M9 on my coming trip to Italy.
> Here around the farm, I am finding more and more uses for B&W  ;-)
>
> Tina
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at 
> gmail.com 
> >wrote:
>
>> Tina,
>>
>> First at all thanks for post this, for all of us is much more  
>> useful your
>> test than the pictures with advertising or promotional purposes.
>>
>> In my first look, I principally apreciate that the pictures with  
>> the M9
>> are more flat, I think in English the LUG says "washed out", MM is  
>> more
>> rich and contrasted, also more rich in shadows and higjlights  
>> detail, in
>> other words, better Density Range, MM looks more sharp.
>>
>> My self question is once you have work in either I think that these
>> differences will become less noticiables, except in sharpness and  
>> using
>> high ISO.
>>
>> Please don't be worried if I ask myself it it pays the the  
>> money..., IMHO
>> I think we would see more difference comparing MM/film or M9/film,  
>> I know,
>> these are two different things and the actual trends seems that are  
>> going
>> to the digital way, much more comfortable to use, but myself I  
>> can't avoid
>> my personnal point of view considering that is not easy afford such  
>> camera.
>>
>> Very interesting effort, thank you again Tina
>>
>> Saludos
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>> El 03/09/2012, a las 0:02, Tina Manley escribi?:
>>
>> PESO:
>>>
>>> I put up some comparisons shot with the MM and M9.  All used the  
>>> same
>>> lenses (mostly 90/2.0) and same exposures - usually 320 ISO.  I used
>>> Silver
>>> Efex Pro to convert the M9 ones to B&W using the Neutral choice.   
>>> No noise
>>> removal or sharpening.  Auto Exposure in LR4 on each one.
>>>
>>> I can definitely tell the difference in the raw files. I'm not  
>>> sure what
>>> you can tell from small jpegs but here they are:
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/**tinamanley/image/145788353<http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/145788353
>>>  
>>> >
>>>
>>> and the next 7.
>>>
>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>
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>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
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