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Subject: [Leica] Light metering with the Leica M9
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:52:35 -0400

So the odds that the rehearsal light is going to be the same as the
performance light are what?

If I got in on a rehearsal I'd use that opportunity to shoot. As I'd be able
to shoot in a way I'd not be able to in the performance.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:30:22 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Light metering with the Leica M9
> 
> If I am a pro I take no chance; I get on stage during rehearsal and
> measure the light.
> 
> Now I'm not a pro - I simply do this:
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/321110-1/Aidada-9543.jpg
> i.e. trust the camera ...
> 
> Well, in truth, I sometimes look at the hysterogram too ;-)
> 
> Amiti?s
> Philippe
> 
> 
> Le 4 sept. 12 ? 21:09, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
> 
>> In a dark place like a theater I'd be just peaking at the image at
>> the back
>> for the camera and occasionally checking for a highlight clip.
>> But really if I'm liking what I'm seeing as I'm shooting just by
>> glancing at
>> the back of the camera do I need to pull out a spot meter? I cant
>> think of
>> why.
>> Never after liking what I'm seeing at the back of my camera am I not
>> able to
>> get at least that in a final Photoshop file, jpeg or print. Normally
>> I can
>> bring out quite a bit more. Even a slightly clipped highlight.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "Peter A. Klein" <pklein at threshinc.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:44:31 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Light metering with the Leica M9
>>> 
>>> The only time I use a spot meter anymore is in the theater or concert
>>> hall, and occasionally for testing. The histogram is a wonderful
>>> light
>>> meter. It leaves no guesswork as to whether the area you're
>>> measuring is
>>> truly representative--if a highlight it going to blow or a shadow
>>> goes
>>> below zero, you know it. All you waste is a free test shot.
>>> 
>>> The MM is unique because it has no highlight headroom. So the spot
>>> meter
>>> will let you recalibrate yourself re. how you use the internal meter.
>>> But I suspect the histogram will be just as good, and eventually you
>>> will just know that in this or that high-contrast situation, you'll
>>> take
>>> your initial shot at minus 2/3 what the meter says, or something like
>>> that. And then, one test shot and a glance at the histogram will
>>> reveal
>>> whether that's correct or not.
>>> 
>>> Here's an M8 concert shot where the spot meter was truly necessary.
>>> The
>>> brightness range exceeded the sensor, I really needed to know what
>>> would
>>> fall where, and whether I could get the faces OK without losing
>>> anything
>>> important in the extremes. This was a live performance, so I didn't
>>> want
>>> to be messing with the histogram and disturbing the people around me
>>> during the music,.
>>> 
>>> Now, if I'd had the MM, this shot would be better. The shadowed faces
>>> are right at the lower limit for detail without too much noise. I'd
>>> have
>>> a bit more "footroom" in the shadows with an MM.
>>> 
>>> Too bad the MM is priced out of my socio-economic status... :-) :-(
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>>> 
>>>> Me, too! I used the spot meter with the M9 until I learned I could
>>>> trust
>>>> the meter. The MM is more picky and I might go back to the spot
>>>> meter
>>>> until I can figure out how it is metering!
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've, frankly, been surprised at how well the M9 meter works
>>>>> given the
>>>>> rather simply approach. I took my spot meter out on one trip and
>>>>> that
>>>>> was the end of bothering with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com
>>> 
>>> 
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