Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/18
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Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Scott Gregory <s_gregory1 at me.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:37:07 -0400 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The Leica M new functionality difference > > Mark with all due respect I think you are dreaming big time when you say > this: > "We're going to see lots of photo reportage stories in papers and online > with > photographers who've traded in their shooting with DSLR'S and zooms and > have > now gone back to Leica M. or are using Leica M for the first time like > their > dads and moms did." > Scott > > On 2012-09-18, at 5:13 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> Without having the new M in hand I think most of us and the photo world at >> large are making a few assumptions on what the new Leica M's level of >> functionality is all about. The new CMOS sensor is going to be on par with >> what most of us are already used to using current state of the art full >> frame DSLR's Canon and Nikon and others. The ability to capture action >> stopped down in dark interiors and sidewalks at night. We're used to >> getting that with our crass DSLR'S. But sadly and ironically not with an >> M9 >> with its purist CCD. >> This mode of freely shooting is way different from shooting wide open >> squeeze and pray shutter speeds and hope they don't blink and either do >> you. >> We've been doing this with exceedingly above average and occasionally >> inspired Nikon and Canon etc glass. Now we can use our premium over the >> top >> Leica glass. And a rangefinder camera. Made by the Leica company. The kind >> of camera and glass one thinks of and hopes to be using with that kind of >> reportage shooting in the first place. >> Leica has come home. 2013 is Leicas lucky number. >> We're going to see lots of photo reportage stories in papers and online >> with >> photographers who've traded in their shooting with DSLR'S and zooms and >> have >> now gone back to Leica M. or are using Leica M for the first time like >> their >> dads and moms did. >> So there will be two stories. The story the photographer is telling and >> the >> story about how he told it using a combination of traditional technology >> and >> new from the Leica camera company. >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:10:29 +1000 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Auto Aperture with R lenses on the new M via the >>> Leica >>> R >>>> M adapter >>> >>> I'm surprised to not see any posts on the M itself thus far. >>> Still it may be 4 or 6 months or so before anyone actually gets one. Very >>> likely some will be in reviewer's hands before then I imagine. >>> I'll be very interested to see how the new sensor and processor perform. >>> I >>> already have the very best lenses I want to use with it. I don't need the >>> other stuff myself but it appears to have every wished for option that >>> has >>> emerged since the launch of the M9. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 September 2012 02:12, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Due to the light amplification in the EVF, it might actually work quite >>>> well for low light subjects. Depends on the performance of the EVF of >>>> course, but some recent ones have been quite good even in very low >>>> light. >>>> >>>> Henning >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-09-18, at 2:56 AM, Topoxforddoc wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure that this will substitute for rhe DMR. Handholding a 180 >>>> cron in low light photographing concerts is hard enough with a top class >>>> optical prism. Using the EVF at 10x mag on moving subjects looks to be >>>> one >>>> step too far! >>>>> >>>>> Charlie >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Sep 2012, at 10:44, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That is how manual focus works on the 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras. I >>>>>> find >>>> it helpful, though I can focus tele lenses fine without since the depth >>>> of >>>> field is so small focus is obvious. Also with a tele or macro lens with >>>> the >>>> 10x magnification it is impossible to hand hold still enough to focus >>>> IME. >>>>>> FD >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Sep, 2012, at 00:53, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If the image is blown up ten times on the back of the thing which I >>>> think >>>>>>> they're saying I can see the thing making it possible to focus. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Henning Wulff >>>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information