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Subject: [Leica] The Kingdom of Belgium, prototypes
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard at sfr.fr)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:44:57 +0200 (CEST)
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Message du : 20/09/2012 19:11
De : "Frank " <red735i at earthlink.net>
A : "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
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 Minor corrections. The chip is designed in Belgium and manufactured under 
contract in France.  A very popular and common arrangement for 
semiconductors. The sensr is fabricated on 12" (300 mm) wafers. You could 
spend a few minutes trying to figure out the number of sensors per wafern 
but don't waste your time. The yield factor is equally important if not more 
important. 
Anyway with a proprietary sensor Leica CAN differentiate itself. The big 
question is now the software and features that can be thought out. I think 
the Farkas article quite good. 

It IS an exciting time to shoot the Leica glass. Personally i think the most 
s cuting feature to await is the built in EVF. when that happens Leica will 
have arrived and can dominate in their area of real expertise: superb optics
Frank Filippone


-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Rabiner 
>Sent: Sep 20, 2012 2:19 AM
>To: Leica Users Group 
>Subject: [Leica] The Kingdom of Belgium, prototypes
>
>Americans going to Europe would think to go to Germany for a Beer,
>Switzerland for a brick of chocolate. Europeans I hear would go to Belgium
>for both. Looking into it I also see cheese.  Cheese is a religion in
>France. But it would seem  a few people think what comes out of Belgian is
>king in that department as well.
>All from a tiny country which don't get no respect. Europeans also tease if
>for being middle class in bourgeois way from all I've heard..  How much of
>this is true I don't know I'm way over here. I'm interested  as I'm a big
>fan of Hercule Poirot .
>But the sensor in the ground shaking Leica M about to come out is made in
>Belgium I didn't catch the name of the company.  Made especially for Leica.
>So it won't be as predictable as part of the same sensor making consortiums
>who make them for the Canon's and Nikons and familiar others. So its
>exciting to see if it will be a leap ahead of what everyone's used to or
>perhaps just a tad behind. Or by coincidence almost exactly the same in
>result.
>And no anti alias filter again.  We'd expect that. And with cutting edge
>firmware to back it up. Software even. Medium rare ware.
>So it will be exciting to see what the results will be. The jpegs and
>prints.
>What I didn't quite grab as I watched the video of the guy shooting the
>model was that the new Leica M is in prototype state. Were pictures really
>being shot? Maybe not. I'm not going to dwell on it and get all
>disappointed. The model got paid anyway. If there was a card in the camera
>I'm sure they would have turned out great. I hope it was the one with the
>card glued in. not the one with no card.
>Lots could change. Its not exactly carved out of a block of balsa wood. But
>the Leica M is not fully realized yet.  I realized that tonight. I hope
>there are no delays with its release. If I had the money in hand I'd wait 5
>months for the bugs to show itself and be resolved before getting one. This
>is a huge leap of technology for a company based in mechanical excellence.
>... Hammers hitting brass... But sooner more than later I'm thinking sooner
>they'll be out there upping the bar on the quality of images we're seeing
>and shooting ourselves.
>A terribly exciting time to be a die hard Leica nut.
>
>
>
>Mark William Rabiner
>Photography
>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>
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