Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/14

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Subject: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:07:47 +0200
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So strange buying Tamron when you just spent a few bucks on a nice  
body ...

Puzzled Philippe


Le 14 oct. 12 ? 18:43, mehrdad a ?crit :

> Geoff, the tamron on the d800e is a disaster, i bought and returned  
> two
> copies of the lens cause the VC works in slow speed and the in medium
> shutter speed, pictures were blurry and also the cam on both lenses  
> for
> nikon were misaligned, u can chk this youself, put your camera in  
> liveview
> and start moving tht aperture from 2.8 upward, u will not see  
> changes till
> 4
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Geoff Hopkinson  
> <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Don't jump to conclusions Mark. Have you actually shot the new  
>> stabilized
>> Tamron 24-70 on one of your Nikons? Did you notice I said I tried  
>> the best
>> Nikon 50 too?
>> I've only shot about 500 frames with the Tamron on my D7000. It  
>> behaves
>> quite well  but of course the package on a dSLR is a lot bigger than
>> anything on my M9. I have only just replaced that camera with the  
>> D600. So
>> I was first interested in just checking the focus accuracy and  
>> speed of
>> operation for what I am trying to learn shooting wise right now.
>> Specifically I want to know what it does on my new camera at a  
>> moderate
>> aperture, 50mm and subject about 2 meters away. The other lens I  
>> tried on
>> this first play was the Nikon AF-S 50 1.4. I bought that with the  
>> D600.
>> You'll be annoyed to hear that my initial pixel peeping showed me  
>> that my
>> 24-70 AF is right on the 0 gradation of my focus target and the 50 is
>> actually a bit out (20mm at 2m) and its focus operation is actually a
>> little slower. I am not seeing any quality differences at all in  
>> these
>> specific test shots as yet. In fact I think the Tamron has the edge
>> currently due to that focus error i need to resolve. But I need to
>> calibrate the camera for that and try again. Very early days yet of  
>> course.
>> I have high hopes for that Nikon 50 on the D600 or I wouldn't have  
>> bought
>> them. Actually I got them right now because some pixel peeping  
>> proved that
>> my Summilux 50 ASPH has gone out of adjustment and is away for
>> recalibration. It was last done in Solms in 2009. 5000 or so frames  
>> later,
>> it is well out.
>>
>> Even more heresy, I got one of the new Olympus EM-5 (OM D) cameras  
>> as well
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> Geoff
>>
>> On 14/10/2012, at 11:19, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You're putting Tamron glass on your Nikon and shocked that you're  
>>> Leica's
>>> are outclassing your results?
>>>
>>> Clearly from the get go your Nikon use is a very low priority for  
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:17:15 +1000
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>>>>
>>>> I have my Leica side participating and my D600 side lurking off  
>>>> list.
>> But
>>>> these Nikons need some really good glass, however good the  
>>>> sensors and
>>>> camera processing, especially the noise management at high ISO's.  
>>>> Great
>>>> metering, features and designs and the logical choice for many  
>>>> types of
>>>> shots. I hate the flat, vague focus screen for manual focus after  
>>>> the
>>>> KatzEye one I had in my D7000. Now Rachael at KatzEye tells me  
>>>> that they
>>>> are finding the new high end Nikons impossible to design for.
>>>>
>>>> The best Nikon 50 and the (new Tamron stabilised) 24-70 I have look
>> OK...
>>>> until the next frame on my monitor that was shot with modern  
>>>> Leica M
>>>> glass. The difference makes me weep. I think I'll sell the house  
>>>> and
>> some
>>>> kidneys and just get the new S.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 October 2012 00:44, H&ECummer <cummer at netvigator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:54:58 -0400
>>>>> From: "A. Lal" <alal at poly.edu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: 300mm f/4.5 Nikkor*ED AI price reduced
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> D800E pixel-peepers lurking on the LUG? Surely not...?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well,
>>>>> Jayanand and I don't lurk - we participate!!
>>>>> :-)
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Howard
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>  regards, mehrdad
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Replies: Reply from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] D800E pixel-peepers)
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