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Subject: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:31:36 -0400

On the nikon  the Image Circle @ Infinity is
154mm diameter @ f/4.5
235 diameter @ f/16

So wide open your not going to get it.
But you never shoot a lens  like this wide open or even close to wide open.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:22:52 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
> 
> the lens will cover the format.........and it is pretty modern, so it 
> should
> be pretty sharp.
> 
> The image circle of the 90 Nikkor SWD is 238mm.
> The 6x17 format has a diagonal of 180mm.
> 
> Back to the questions about film flatness.... and "floppiness" in the
> camera...  The SWC is exceptional in this regard.....
> 
> What film "holder" are you using?
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Richard Man
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:08 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
> 
> Mainly the Nikkor 90mm SWD, but I think the other lens are similar...
> 
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Frank Filippone
> <red735i at verizon.net>wrote:
> 
>> Film flatness plays its part....
>> Your lens is trying to project an image circle equivalent to a 5x7
>> negative area....not an easy task....
>> 
>> What lens are you using?
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>> Always been my understanding of it, not the same enlargement so not
>> the same lens resolving. Newer LF lenses are much better than most old
>> ones though....
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> As Iwas formulating the question, it sounds like the answer IS
>> obvious, but just want to confirm.
>> 
>> I am testing the Shenhao 617 and it could be my focusing techniques
>> and other issues, but it appears to me that the images are not as
>> sharp on the same film as images made by, well, the Hassy SWC.
>> 
>> Yes, I am expecting someone to jump in and say of course the SWC is
>> razor sharp because it's the legendary Biogon etc., but I am now
>> thinking that this generally will be the case, as the large format
>> lens are designed to cover large negative (and the smallest 4x5 dwarfs
>> the 617) so they do not generally have the resolution and sharpness
>> that a good medium format lens has.
>> 
>> Is this correct?
>> 
>> --
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> 
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