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Subject: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:19:52 -0500

And the mirror has to go up first.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:59:38 -0600 (CST)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M
> 
> SLR's that have to autofocus before the shutter goes are not faster than 
> an M
> Leica.
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2012, at 2:43 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Marty Deveney OFFERED:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 7:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M
>> 
>>>> Now that the digital M
>>>> cameras have long shutter-lag times even when compared to DSLRs, 
>>>> suddenly
>>>> we're hearing that shutter lag doesn't matter, that nobody notices it.
>>>> Really?  Nobody?  For capturing fleeting expressions in a portrait
>>>> session, nobody has noticed it?<<<<<<<<<<<
>> 
>> Marty Mon ami,
>> Absolute truth at this moment of reading your posts on Leica lag! And me
>> writing this.
>> 
>> The "lag as you describe" in my 50 plus years of using Leica range
>> finders/SLR's quite often several at the same time hanging off my body has
>> never ever entered one iota of a mille-second of my thoughts, concerns, 
>> nor
>> that it was even happening."  To prove my point good Sir, please look at 
>> my
>> webpage TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM and look at a few mille-second photos of
>> "ACTIONS!" That if you even thought about shooting the moment.... "YOU 
>> WOULD
>> MISS IT!"
>> 
>> You see I always figure, as with many other techie things I read on the 
>> LUG.
>> If you don't know anything about it?  ..........  YOU DON'T HAVE THEM 
>> HAPPEN!
>> WHY?
>> 
>> Well yer far too busy shooting the action without wasting time slowing 
>> down
>> your own reflexes thinking about them, so this stuff just doesn't happen! 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Well OK I know I'm being a tad facetious. But, "What you don't know wont 
>> hurt
>> you!" 
>> 
>> "SHOOT IT WITHOUT THINKING!"
>> 
>> The content of the moment is the most important always! And if you are
>> twittering your brain about some "lag thing?"  YOU WILL MISS THE CONTENT
>> MOMENT! May have something to do with my concept!"   "DON'T THINK! SHOOT 
>> IT!"
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The M8, M9 and Monochrom lag time is about 1/13s.  To me it's the most
>>> substantial problem with all these cameras.  It's been discussed here
>>> widely before:
>>> http://leica-users.org/v43/msg02993.html
>>> http://leica-users.org/v44/msg03170.html
>>> 
>>> Leica has stated that the new M (typ 240) has new architecture that
>>> makes the camera faster and the shutter feel smoother.  The dummy
>>> cameras that have been doing the rounds at the trade fairs seem to
>>> display at least the latter, while no-one has measured the former.
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
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>> 
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