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Subject: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:42:42 -0500

Jumping Jack Flash, its a gas !


Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:18:59 -0600
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
> 
> There's flash, and then there's FLASH!
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
> 
> 
>> Wrong guy half my work is with flash at least before digital.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:51:06 -0800
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>> 
>>> Mark, if you just go to http://richardmanphoto.com, the home page
>>> slideshow
>>> is either M9 or the XPan. You can tell easily: pano is XPan, non pano is
>>> M9.
>>> 
>>> Oh wait, that's right, you don't like flash. Sorry. OK, here are some
>>> links
>>> I posted here in the last few months:
>>> 
>>> Nitt Witt Ridge, Cambria
>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121112-L1017378-Edit.jpg
>>> my first mag cover:
>>> http://www.bbimedia.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=42_56&p
>>> ro
>>> ducts_id=543
>>> 
>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/Beach-2012-S/content/images/large/L1017052.j
>>> pg
>>> 
>>> Not quite Manhattanhenge:
>>> http://www.richardmanphoto.com/PICS/L1016364.jpg
>>> 
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> My "Voice of the 99%"  Leica M9 images have won Merit Awards in the B&W
>>> Magazine, and 2nd Place in the Soho Gallery in NYC Annual competition
>>> etc.
>>> Those and $3.50 get me a cup of chai at Starbucks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Mark Rabiner
>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Can we see a URL on some m9 shots Richard I've looked at your site an
>>>> cant
>>>> find them the only shot I know you did with the camera was Brians
>>>> birthday
>>>> pic. I'm sure you're great with the camera and would love to see them.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:22:32 -0800
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>>> 
>>>>> No offense to Tina, for every stock photographer that makes money with
>>>>> Leica, there are 10 billions that use Canikon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For every photojournalist that cut their teeth with a Leica M3 or M6,
>>>> there
>>>>> are gazillions that use Nikanon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You count all the photos hanging on galleries or all the stock photos
>>>> right
>>>>> now, most of them are not done with Leica equipments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Leica M 240 will not do any good in the hands of someone who does not
>>>>> understand the light and composition, bokeh be damn.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Me? The M9 is my go to camera. For other people, who am I to tell them
>>>> that
>>>>> my set of 'luxes are the finest picture taking lens ever. Well, at
>>>>> least
>>>>> for dinky 35mm size.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chances are I will pick up a 4x5 to go with my 617 at some point and my
>>>>> $500 lens will eat the lunch off the $10,000 Noctilux...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A very interesting topic and conversation. I can only offer from
>>>> experince
>>>>>> of shooting for magaines, wire services, commercial clients, Ad
>>>>>> agencies
>>>>>> and any number if various clients.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only once was there a question. The assignment required shooting on
>>>>>> 4X5
>>>>>> size film. I showed them a number of 35 Kodachromes shot wth Leicas.
>>>> AND?
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They said .... "OK go with your gear it will work perfectly!" :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Dr. ted  :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Lottermoser" <
>>>> imagist3 at mac.com>
>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:59 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:38 AM, jon.streeter wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  A friend of mine told me in the '70s that art directors didn't take
>>>>>>>> photographers seriously unless they were shooting with Nikons,
>>>> Hasselblads,
>>>>>>>> and a few other well-known brands.  I never worked with an art
>>>> director, so
>>>>>>>> I took his word for it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Greg Rubenstein" <gcr910 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Simple explanation for all this tech and test stuff: use the right
>>>> tool
>>>>>>>> for what you're trying to accomplish regardless of brand. You know
>>>> what
>>>>>>>> works for you -- and your clients, who hire vision and results, not
>>>> brands
>>>>>>>> and data sheets.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> both statements have proven true in my experience.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Art directors" hire "talent"
>>>>>>> More often than not the "best talent" use the "best tools"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sometimes the art directors (and their agencies and clients) can't
>>>> afford
>>>>>>> the best talent.
>>>>>>> they then try and hedge their bets by specifying that at least "the
>>>>>>> talent" use "the best tools."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/**imagist <
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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