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Subject: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:39:13 -0500

It was simply the last thing on anybodies mind.
I think when people first started talking about it most of us old timers
thought they were on candid camera or something. We were having our leg
pulled.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:27:54 -0600 (CST)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
> 
> Nobody knew what broken was.
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> A few of the classic nikon optics from the 70's and before had six blades
>> the 105 2.5 and the 80 f2 and not the best bokeh. Nobody cared.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:24:50 -0800
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Steve Barbour
>>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:29 PM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm with Dr. Ted. I've been shooting since the late sixties, mostly
>>> professionally, and never thought about that. I could see examples 
>>> before I
>>> knew what it was where really bad Bokeh was disturbing, but that wasn't 
>>> very
>>> often and I didn't loose sleep. I have been told that Nikon has a big
>>> problem
>>> with Bokeh, and I sure shot a lot of stuff for pay with those bad 
>>> nikkors,
>>> and
>>> heard no complaints.
>>> 
>>> Well put, people seem to be more aware now, what with the name and all.
>>> There
>>> are even camera/lens ads for the latest greatest "with wonderful bokeh".
>>> 
>>> (my iphone just tried to correct bokeh with "Bolshevik".)
>>> 
>>> s
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: tedgrant at shaw.ca
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:37 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>> 
>>> "BOKEH?" Every time this word / effect raises it's head on the LUG I 
>>> never
>>> even knew the word nor what it meant for at least the first 50 years of
>>> shooting. :-)
>>> 
>>> Then I joined the LUG  and one day it raised it's ugly little head and of
>>> course went on for days, good, bad and ugly! :-) Meanwhile I'm wondering
>>> "what the hell are these guys talking about?"  Then I was informed it was
>>> all about the background out of focus effect! And where had I been for my
>>> first 50 years not knowing this?
>>> 
>>> Well heck my answer was quite simple. :-) I  always shot for the maximum
>>> impact of the subject as that was always what I thought was most 
>>> important.
>>> Surprise! One day I was told .... "No the Bokeh is just as important as 
>>> it
>>> helps the subject look better!"
>>> 
>>> Me?  "Really?"  So what the hell have I been doing wrong and successfully
>>> for 50 years and never knew the word existed?   The effect? "Yes." But it
>>> just never mattered!
>>> 
>>> Oh well the usual thing. Different effects for different folks. :-)
>>> 
>>> Although I now admit I am aware of it in how it separates details in some
>>> situations.   BUT? Do I pay attention to it as I'm shooting? Never 
>>> enters my
>>> mind! Only on days like this when once a again the "ugly" ;-) little word
>>> appears on my screen and I sigh and delete! ;-) "Have a nice Bokeh day
>>> lads!" :-)
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>> 
>>> 
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