Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/28

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Subject: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:27:54 -0600 (CST)
References: <CCDC0BFE.26D6F%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Nobody knew what broken was. 

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> A few of the classic nikon optics from the 70's and before had six blades
> the 105 2.5 and the 80 f2 and not the best bokeh. Nobody cared.
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:24:50 -0800
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Steve Barbour
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:29 PM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm with Dr. Ted. I've been shooting since the late sixties, mostly
>> professionally, and never thought about that. I could see examples before 
>> I
>> knew what it was where really bad Bokeh was disturbing, but that wasn't 
>> very
>> often and I didn't loose sleep. I have been told that Nikon has a big 
>> problem
>> with Bokeh, and I sure shot a lot of stuff for pay with those bad 
>> nikkors, and
>> heard no complaints.
>> 
>> Well put, people seem to be more aware now, what with the name and all. 
>> There
>> are even camera/lens ads for the latest greatest "with wonderful bokeh".
>> 
>> (my iphone just tried to correct bokeh with "Bolshevik".)
>> 
>> s
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: tedgrant at shaw.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:37 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>> 
>> "BOKEH?" Every time this word / effect raises it's head on the LUG I never
>> even knew the word nor what it meant for at least the first 50 years of
>> shooting. :-)
>> 
>> Then I joined the LUG  and one day it raised it's ugly little head and of
>> course went on for days, good, bad and ugly! :-) Meanwhile I'm wondering
>> "what the hell are these guys talking about?"  Then I was informed it was
>> all about the background out of focus effect! And where had I been for my
>> first 50 years not knowing this?
>> 
>> Well heck my answer was quite simple. :-) I  always shot for the maximum
>> impact of the subject as that was always what I thought was most 
>> important.
>> Surprise! One day I was told .... "No the Bokeh is just as important as it
>> helps the subject look better!"
>> 
>> Me?  "Really?"  So what the hell have I been doing wrong and successfully
>> for 50 years and never knew the word existed?   The effect? "Yes." But it
>> just never mattered!
>> 
>> Oh well the usual thing. Different effects for different folks. :-)
>> 
>> Although I now admit I am aware of it in how it separates details in some
>> situations.   BUT? Do I pay attention to it as I'm shooting? Never enters 
>> my
>> mind! Only on days like this when once a again the "ugly" ;-) little word
>> appears on my screen and I sigh and delete! ;-) "Have a nice Bokeh day
>> lads!" :-)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted :-)
>> 
>> 
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