Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/29

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Subject: [Leica] Leica in the LUG
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:37:08 -0500
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Absolutely perfect synopsis of Leica releases!  At least since they went
digital.

Tina

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote:

> Geoff:  You're not alone. I am interested.  I really am. But:
>
> 1. The M (240) is not yet available.
> 2. When it becomes available, it will only be available to the folks that
> pre-ordered it.
> 3. Then it will become unavailable again.
> 4. The usual Web sites will publish glowing articles an how bleeping
> incredible the camera is and how no serious photographer could possibly
> live without it.
> 5. The other usual Web sites will publish snarky articles about how the
> camera takes OK pictures, but nothing you couldn't do with a much more
> versatile midrange C or N, about how it's neck jewelry for the "1%," and
> about how they're not sure how Leica can still exist, even though it does.
> 6. Someone on the Internet will find something seriously wrong with it.
> 7. There will be several weeks/months of debate on whether the above
> complainer used proper methodology, whether it's really a problem, and
> whether Leica will survive the outrage.
> 8. Leica will fix whatever problem was found.
> 9. The camera will become available again.
> 10. Something Later and Newer will capture the attention of the
> photographic hive mind.
>
> It's somewhere between Steps 8 and 10 that I will consider whether the new
> M might improve my photography sufficiently that it would be worth selling
> a bunch of stuff and depleting my retirement savings to buy it.  If it
> would, I may bite. If not, I might upgrade to an M9 that a new M purchaser
> is unloading.  Meanwhile, I'm reading everything I can about the new M.
>  I'm hoping the new sensor puts it in the same high ISO ballpark as the
> better DSLRs and the Fuji X-Pro 1. I'm optimistic that it will still show
> the character of those incrediblishe lensen vee love zo much  (mit
> apologies to Jon Streeter  :-)
>
> In the meantime, I continue to shoot with my M8 (remember them?). And also
> with an un-Leica with very modern technology (Oly OM-D E-M5) for the things
> that a rangefinder and digital Leicas don't do as well. Unfortunately, that
> includes ISOs of over 800.
>
> Knock wood, I can still focus an RF at one year shy of 60, and it's still
> my preferred way of working. If I had money to burn, I would already own an
> MM--I love B&W, and it does beautiful high ISO. And if hard times hit and I
> had to sell all my toys but a few, I'd keep my M6 and a 50 Summicron, and
> shoot whatever fast B&W film was out there.
>
> So, can I stay?  :-)
>
> --Peter
>
>
> Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> Am I alone in being also interested in the forthcoming new Leica cameras
>> here? Post activity sometimes seems to be anything but Leica
>> My delete key is wearing out prematurely ;-)
>> Paradigm shifts, Fujis, Sonys, DXO whatever,.... can't tell the
>> difference.....a new crop of why product X or S is better than the M9,
>> three years after the M9 actually came out and it is discontinued now
>> anyway.
>> The M typ 240  will be a huge evolution. Mine's on order. I guess we have
>> no S system owners at all? but that new model is also evolving a great
>> deal.
>> At least the Monochrom is of interest and that one really is a "paradigm
>> shift"
>> Jeesh!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
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