[Leica] Leica in the LUG

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#11 could be me, too!  ;-)

Tina

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> Steve I think your comment regarding members being 'self indulgent'
> discussing new Leica equipment was unreasonable.
> What is the LUG for if not discussions on camera equipment and photography?
> In fact I was only attempting to introduce a new discussion on Leica
> equipment. The L.
>
> I enjoyed Peter's list predicting the stages of arrival of a new Leica
> model.
> Your number 11 is obviously aimed at me. I promise that I have no coercive
> or corrupting powers ;-)
> Some list members are interested in the forthcoming products. Just filter
> what you want to read, as I think most of us do.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2012 23:24, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Geoff:  You're not alone. I am interested.  I really am. But:
> > >
> > > 1. The M (240) is not yet available.
> > > 2. When it becomes available, it will only be available to the folks
> > that pre-ordered it.
> > > 3. Then it will become unavailable again.
> > > 4. The usual Web sites will publish glowing articles an how bleeping
> > incredible the camera is and how no serious photographer could possibly
> > live without it.
> > > 5. The other usual Web sites will publish snarky articles about how the
> > camera takes OK pictures, but nothing you couldn't do with a much more
> > versatile midrange C or N, about how it's neck jewelry for the "1%," and
> > about how they're not sure how Leica can still exist, even though it
> does.
> > > 6. Someone on the Internet will find something seriously wrong with it.
> > > 7. There will be several weeks/months of debate on whether the above
> > complainer used proper methodology, whether it's really a problem, and
> > whether Leica will survive the outrage.
> > > 8. Leica will fix whatever problem was found.
> > > 9. The camera will become available again.
> > > 10. Something Later and Newer will capture the attention of the
> > photographic hive mind.
> >
> > and don't forget...
> >
> > 11. months before it's available, someone will tell you that they are
> > getting one, that it's worth it, and that it's the greatest thing since
> > sliced bread.
> >
> >
> > > It's somewhere between Steps 8 and 10 that I will consider whether the
> > new M might improve my photography sufficiently that it would be worth
> > selling a bunch of stuff and depleting my retirement savings to buy it.
>  If
> > it would, I may bite. If not, I might upgrade to an M9 that a new M
> > purchaser is unloading.  Meanwhile, I'm reading everything I can about
> the
> > new M.  I'm hoping the new sensor puts it in the same high ISO ballpark
> as
> > the better DSLRs and the Fuji X-Pro 1. I'm optimistic that it will still
> > show the character of those incrediblishe lensen vee love zo much  (mit
> > apologies to Jon Streeter  :-)
> > >
> > > In the meantime, I continue to shoot with my M8 (remember them?). And
> > also with an un-Leica with very modern technology (Oly OM-D E-M5) for the
> > things that a rangefinder and digital Leicas don't do as well.
> > Unfortunately, that includes ISOs of over 800.
> > >
> > > Knock wood, I can still focus an RF at one year shy of 60, and it's
> > still my preferred way of working. If I had money to burn, I would
> already
> > own an MM--I love B&W, and it does beautiful high ISO. And if hard times
> > hit and I had to sell all my toys but a few, I'd keep my M6 and a 50
> > Summicron, and shoot whatever fast B&W film was out there.
> > >
> > > So, can I stay?  :-)
> > >
> > > --Peter
> > >
> > > Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> > >> Am I alone in being also interested in the forthcoming new Leica
> cameras
> > >> here? Post activity sometimes seems to be anything but Leica
> > >> My delete key is wearing out prematurely ;-)
> > >> Paradigm shifts, Fujis, Sonys, DXO whatever,.... can't tell the
> > >> difference.....a new crop of why product X or S is better than the M9,
> > >> three years after the M9 actually came out and it is discontinued now
> > >> anyway.
> > >> The M typ 240  will be a huge evolution. Mine's on order. I guess we
> > have
> > >> no S system owners at all? but that new model is also evolving a great
> > deal.
> > >> At least the Monochrom is of interest and that one really is a
> "paradigm
> > >> shift"
> > >> Jeesh!
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Geoff
> > >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> > >
> > >
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