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Subject: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:02:10 -0600
References: <CCDD2F51.26E9E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <94FFD29E-BD6E-4689-A21D-9E7FBB803FCB@frozenlight.eu>

I'm waiting to see your X-100 images.  I sometimes wish I had one of those.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9


> While you guys read dpreview, I take pictures.
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> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1
>>
>> " The body of the RX1 is clearly smaller (than the fuji X 100) but the 
>> lens
>> (which is actually 35mm, rather than being equivalent to 35mm) is longer.
>> Neither of these cameras is pocketable, but equally, neither is anywhere
>> near as large or obvious as a DSLR."
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>
>>
>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:59:32 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>
>>> Sorry for being unclear I know that the RX1 is in one respect not the
>>> digital Rollei 35 and or Oly XA as it would not fit in a jeans pocket 
>>> like
>>> they can.
>>> (its the 1.5 crop bodies coming out in the next year which I expect to 
>>> fit
>>> in a jeans pocket)
>>>
>>> The lens though overwhelms me and in really a good way.
>>> Yes that might be the aspect of the system which makes it not 
>>> pocketable.
>>> But what a lens!
>>> I think their thought is to make it worthy of a lens which is not
>>> interchangeable.
>>> My God is it gorgeous! It takes my breath away!
>>> Possibly a classic like the Zeiss 40mm Tessar and then Sonar that came 
>>> with
>>> the Rollei 35. (I have the Tessar from the first year of manufacture in
>>> Germany)
>>> How could a lens that gorgeous not make premium images is my only
>>> impression.
>>>
>>> By the way you can fully see the lens here and also the camera compared 
>>> to
>>> the Fuji.
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1/images/comparedtofuj
>>> i_top.jpg
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d2c2ry4
>>>
>>> To me it bears the verisimilitude of a real camera.
>>> And I spelt that right the first time...
>>>
>>> In a way its about the same size but in a way its a tad smaller. A lot 
>>> less
>>> long from side to side. But fatter.
>>> So in a way were looking at a smaller body but with a larger sensor.
>>>
>>> Smaller body
>>> Larger sensor
>>> Both at once.
>>> Big news.
>>>
>>> And full frame compacts from the rest of the industry are sure to be 
>>> nipping
>>> at its heels and some will be smaller. And I expect some will be even
>>> pocketable.
>>> I'm excited!
>>>
>>> The hang up was not technology. It was the marketing people.
>>> They just didn't think a small full frame compact at a full DSLR price 
>>> point
>>> would go over.
>>> It think they're going to be proved way wrong and they know that already 
>>> as
>>> I'm betting Nikon, Canon, Oly, Panasonic and maybe even Leica has a full
>>> frame compact halfway down the drawing boards.
>>> I don't think wishful thinking but we'll find out soon enough.
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:26:07 +0000
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming that you have at least seen pictures of the  RX1? While 
>>>> its
>>>> body
>>>> may be a little smaller than the X100 (which has both optical and 
>>>> electronic
>>>> viewfinders built in) its lens is huge, the bare RX1 lens sticks out 
>>>> further
>>>> and far wider than the X100 with hood. I would not expect it to fit in 
>>>> my
>>>> jeans pocket, possibly into lower pockets on cargo pants......
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1/images/comparedtofuji>>
>> _
>>>> top.jpg
>>>>
>>>> This shot also shows that the Sony has no shutter speed dial
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>> If they're going to make smaller than full frame compacts they are 
>>>>> going to
>>>>> have to be truly pocketable.
>>>>
>>>>> They have to not almost fit in your pocket like an RX1 does.
>>>>> They have to fit in your jeans pocket.
>>>>
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)